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veggy recipes . yum yum
http://tasmaniantimes.com/index.php?%2Fweblog%2Farticle%2Fare-vulvas-so-obscene-that-we-have-to-censor-them%2F
birth canal and pleasure dome
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-23820941
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-23820941
Big up to the Somalis for this book and theatre festival… which prevents political and religious leaders from speaking or holding court.. Great photos too
How Captain Kirk changed science
Pretty and Vegan http://www.carnism.org/
What Is Carnism?
Carnism is the invisible belief system, or ideology, that conditions people to eat certain animals. Carnism is essentially the opposite of veganism; “carn” means “flesh” or “of the flesh” and “ism” denotes a belief system. Most people view eating animals as a given, rather than a choice; in meat-eating cultures around the world people typically don’t think about why they find the flesh of some animals disgusting and the flesh of other animals appetizing, or why they eat any animals at all. But when eating animals is not a necessity for survival, as is the case in much of the world today, it is a choice – and choices always stem from beliefs.
http://www.carnism.org/2012-05-15-16-41-47/27-bios/37-about-dr-melanie-joy
The Uncontacted Indians of Peru At risk of extinction from disease and land loss In the d
much ado about …
New Online Commune in Shock and absorbing scandal
Osho’s instructions for a futuristic online commune with maximum readership and minimum hugging has allegedly received absolutely no funding from anyone at all, shock.
Despite allegations of being funded by an anonymous typist with multiple personality disorder, investigations have discovered that the Vision for the 21st century of a virtual commune were laid years ago by this Zen Master looking at an empty telly screen.
These allegations of absolutely nothing providing endless realisations when the plug was switched to the On position are in line with what Vedic commenters have traditionally been doing for years , says our correspondent, ‘ Going Aum and Aum and Aum about nothing in particular ‘.
Once prized as a highly beneficial singular activity, online it is now recognised as what Osho would have wanted as a technological solution for our worst devices, including thinking aloud and no thinking allowed.
Meditation tip for the day… Be a Delete unto yourself.
Jerry Springer to advise Osho international on Conflict Resolution… shock !
Sannyarns News is proud to present a new format to its online discussions.
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The brand new format will take a look forward to the next 30 years where only futuristic versions of spiritual visions will be allowed, instead of the usual guff , and erm, valuable insights. Together with our new resident AGONY AUNT advice feature we are sure that many contributors will be in a better position to produce the highest quality 20/20 insights for optimum resolution of our differing views on these way past their sell by date ideas.
We start this week with a familiar issue for many readers…..
Dear Agony Aunt,
Recently I have been looking at the men’s column here for some inspiration and furtive pleasure.
Despite re-arranging the furniture since Stan passed on, I find that I’m not exactly sure if I can claim for further benefits, advice or spiritual assistance to help me get through the week. I often find I’m quite dependent on your reply form , to help me feel better.
I had a very nice man visit from the department of Spiritual Benefits, who said that I was probably suffering from a severe case of non-judgementalism, and that I should keep track of my opinions and in case they created any further trouble that I should start writing them all out, as it usually helped with these severe cases of internal Vipblahblahssana
Ps. I’m not sure if I need advice or just a device to get me in the mood for what Stan used to help himself to, regularly, on a Saturday morning.
Yours
Ma Blogg Rolle
to which our Agony Aunt replies,
Dear Ma,
Yes I really understand how much ‘not allowing’ you must be going through.
It must be very difficult for you not having observed your own but others’ thoughts for all these years, especially as the more rubbish ones seem to catch up with us over time.
One of the most distressing aspects you mention is being unable to let go into the divan. Have you tried those lovely recliner chairs advertised for the elderly seeker… the Parker Knowall ? Where you can put your feet up and snooze through the more irritating reminiscences ? When you find that your aloneness is a bit of a monster that surfaces from time to time, try taking photos of it , and we will publish them here for discussion.
Obviously you must be missing Stan’s devotional tongue tip taste of Tao, on Saturdays, but help is at hand.
Hope that helps. If necessary, pretend everything is fine and just as the master would have wanted.
Regards and Best Blessings,
Auntie.
In the early morning rain.. music.
why does Osho not post himself on Fartbook ?
I’m very worried.
Andi Osho the female comedian, in the UK may find fewer people following her online spiritual advice. I always wondered why she never mentioned non stop dancing for personal salvation, unlike Derek and Clive, who conversely do.
The Ethiopian village self help association of osho may find it cannot afford the new wooden board sign following Niren’s visit to what he claimed was nothing but a front for the liberation of Oshostan.
I think it all smacks of excessive moderation, which 0**o’s Sannyas was famed for in its search for slightly paradoxical personal liberation, via other’s opinions. Luckily nowadays we can form our opinions alone, offline away and content in the knowledge of being able to think.
Eat that, Farcebook !
I’m currently renaming myself Facebook and claiming the profits from my erstwhile website, via a reliable accountant in Slough.
scots
I reckon that’s a device of yours Lokesh, yae cannae Skott.
.. Ye know that ahh saae thet cummin ferm alaang ways arf.
Aye typicaal, typicaall of al a wee post modernist ex proto sannyarsenal seegers , nae’r mine aboot tha dirtyy twoo yeaaars yes been messin aboot , aye tees a wee device primed tae go arf like a piece ae bubble gomm… a-splodge al ova ma fess… aff’er a long piss a choowannn.
buttt….
yeess own deeevious ‘as been snuffed oott ba ma samplle wee method o’ blawin haard on the ootbreath. A plegg aann al deviouses … laayk against a weee candell aannee wiinn…blae haard an light yer own fruggin cannell …..thats wah a sey
(singing can now be heard emanating from a bright orange painted beach hut somewhere on La Playa de Los Locos Estranjeros )
…….nerr knowing hae tae tern ttttoooo wan thea renn satt ann.
I ccood a luvved yoos beetar bu’ I wass jus’ a kidd…….
followed by…
Occhh papapjjii ……the lights the lights are kallin ,….. ferm glen tae arshramm aycrass the moontayne si”
and
ayye amm freggin cracked a hamm
weheaaayyy , last wun in a waterr gets spanked ann-a botty wee my Shaktipaddlle.
no ice cream with nuts, i’m from the UK.
Well, the hugely funny sit down comedy that I’m a vehicle of the universe for, and humbly so , has been attacked by anti liberationist forces , and my own topless public protests , whilst sunbathing on my balcony here have gone unnoticed by the majority of the village’s inhabitants. I am therefore posting this in the hope that my plea for deeper though less noisy consciousness goes viral and that the world’s media starts a campaign for the release of those who have been held mentally captive by things that coulda shoulda oughta never ‘ave happened. Or maybe they should have.
If you feel to support this charitable protest
please write to
The Cake and Bun
C/o The Centre for Psychic Introversion
and Self Censuous Studies
Sensible Street
Shussh, That’s far too Emotively Expressive and Interactive Lane.
Totnes.
United Kingdom. Great Britain, England .
Copies of the NHS Sex and Exercise information Pamphlet,
” You wanna sleep around, politely, with no fuss , because that would be easier.” Are available, at the Totnes Swimming Pool, at the shallow end for those who are constantly out of their depth.
When the eating stops, the killing stops.
Refuse to accept the world of the Killer his family and his limited range of feelings of justice and conscience. Go out of our way to limit their lack of culture and their plebean gormless , loveless eyes.
refused publication from SannyasNews… the English …
Welcome to life in Britain…
Where visitors are always impressed by the English emotive range and their desire for authentic invocation and the vitality it nurtures. Such love of the feminine approach to the passions and joys, what !
Our two visitors here showing that life hasn’t changed much in millennia…
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My Credo on This and That world
It’s Up To Us To Do Something About Everything
Posted on 6 April, 2013 by sannyasnews
One of most fundamental contributions Osho gave to me and us was the reminder that we live in a deeply manic, violent and phobic society, not just robotic as described by Gurdjieff or filled with selves who think they exist but don’t, according to advaitists like ganga /papa/ meatymooji. And it’s up to us to do something about everything. Or die trying or laughing at the effort.
Osho’s existence was a direct call to attention of the role of state violence and conditioned vested, bondaged mentality in limiting life. Osho, the man and his voice was a direct target of this mania and violence through the history of the ending of the ranch , his institutional imprisonment and the forced retreat to the backwaters of India.Whatever you think of Karma , you still have to choose a target of preference, and mine is always the vested power of the state and its agents.
By not only opening up the conversations , but by being an example of unsilenceable integrity against oppression, he stood as unique testimony to the role of the state in being the agent of violence, through corporate and institutionalized, cradle to grave suppression. This also was a warning to us as evidenced by all the exchanges we have had on here, at SN, as regards our own failures to safeguard ourselves from our own Quislings.
However where all other self-realized One’s miserably fail and weakly, cowardly so, is in removing the notion of consciousness from actualizing its effects and being responsible for it in the world as we go. And through redemptive accountability for the world which we make and agree to on the way to prescribed cosmic unity. They, the other you-tube realized Ones , refuse and fail to confront the world on it’s own terms, and provide nothing useful in fundamental collective, humanist and accessible examples as a radical or inspiring voice …not a single rebel voice amongst them.
By attempting to shortcut or prune their concerns into the actualizing of other-worldly consciousness they do a disservice to the experience of life itself, and prevent that solidarity which arises from collective social and parallel engagement. Engagement that confronts the world from which consciousness itself is painfully born.
Further, this website is tracked for significant communications of all the contributors, by vested interests of the government agencies for any forms of dissent that refer back to anything Osho represented as being potentially threatening to their political agenda. SN would be rated on that scale of things to watch, because of what happened in the States, whereas all the other ji ji’s just have nice disciples, we had troublesome for the State and each other ones.
The fact that none of us engage in that kind of effective debate here is not due to what Osho was capable of, and inspired, but what we have left OUT of the whole picture that our lives around him now represent in his material absence. That trouble-making provocative fire, where others are cool and insignificant by their lack of immersion or example.
Personally, as most of you should know well by now, I have a line in the sand for other sannyasins who have no interest in the consequences of Osho’s complete legacy to us, either in their personal or collective lives. That legacy includes libertarian radicalism, and animal compassionate humanist concerns. When actions are taken with integrity towards a complete fellowship with what Osho did, how he was able to voice with precision the double speak of hypocrisy, he offered a more relevant and complete understanding of humans living in suffering and responsible for the ecology of their own internal and external world.That’s why I have only had veggy girlfriends all my adult life and currently live with a dumb but kind hearted vegan.(ouch, she just thumped me).
To me it is a great shame that there are not the given examples of that intention, as living, thriving parallel self-sufficient politically confronting communities of complete political intent, and part of that failure was/is in resting upon introspection and psychology as being the solely formative representations of his market-place legacy.
I take very small initiatives here in lambasting those who claim anything less than a veg-eatarian lifestyle as being representative of what sannyas was and is ethically all about. I cannot sponsor now or before by my energies, those who want to be liberated and engage in the search for personal liberation whilst still being incapable of making some simple first steps.This has actually prevented me, happily so, from investing in the manifest hypocrisy of either therapist, meditation mongerers or those who espouse and mouth platitudes in Osho’s name.
Some of you will know about me living on a Greek island for some years and some of you will be surprised to know that the money backing the Osho centre there comes from a family who make or at least made then , their money from meat packing on the mainland. Draw your own conclusions about me or them, but just to let you know I have never been back and avoided the centre whilst living next door to it, literally for that and other reasons.
Now my opinion may not prevent hypocritical cruelty per se, but it comes down to who or what do you support when offered a choice, and in whose company in the market place. Further there are two Greek sannyas restaurants cafes there which make money from the selling every day of flesh. This was never my version of rebellion, and although I socialized and very rarely had a coffee at these places, my laughter was always tempered by the fact that despite our affinities we were never going to be deep friends. Somethings don’t wash, including spearfishing, lamb lard dinners, octopus legs and the tethering of a goat in the yard ready for slaughter at easter before the centre opened.
Most of the Greeks I met there were very very primitive in this regard and it came as no surprise when the cholesterol addicted centre leader dropped dead just a few years ago. There is a limit to hypocrisy. Some of you may even accuse me here of enjoying a dead gloat. As long as it died naturally, I have no problem with that.
So what of all this, well this piece comes about after watching what I could bear to watch about cruelty to animals on You Tube, prompted tangentially by the simple comment of elephants Lokesh made. It is not legally permissible to describe what I would like to do to the elephant torturers of Ringlings circus in the States, although I spent eight long weeks in Virginia chasing them up and down the state, informing the public what exactly went into this vindictive and cruel plebean circus market of so called childrens’ entertainment for the proles and by criminals. Luckily the Chief of Police in Norfolk VA then, was a feminist woman who sympathised with our actions and who knew very well of the circus’s employees criminality, some having been prosecuted for other offences prior so her force was instructed not to impede our protests.
So if anyone is reading this and could use my activist thoughts and experience in a location where consciousness, fun, ethical integrity and libertarian libidos come together , do drop me a line.
Further, when we ask ourselves what to do with living with oneself and how to best address the schizophrenic being /not being, here /not here , I/not I consolations of being out of step with a materialistic universe that doesn’t ask permission before it incarnates people willy nilly because of never ending piss taking/ infinite love derived from erm itself, then…. perhaps engaging in using those elements of pissed-off-ness, even if sullied by frustrated gloating or any other less-than-virtuous-motivated-motive, then we begin to feel and assume engagement in significance and absorbtion instead of fantastical displacement activity such as trying not to exist, when we quite clearly do, however greedy we might be of those who don’t.
Just a thought….as part of my contribution ,whilst here, to evolution.
Now back to the music.
for further info on how many political agendas does it take to have your website surveyed then read this…
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/daniel-mcgowan/communication-management-units_b_2944580.html
and view here….
http://www.democracynow.org/2009/6/25/exclusive_animal_rights_activist_jailed_at
Prem Martyn
37 Responses to It’s Up To Us To Do Something About Everything
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bodhi vartan says:
Tanks PM. Deep and thoughtful as always.
Our (Osho’s) rebellion didn’t work. They got us to “fight them” because they are good at “fighting” and we are not.
All the old-rebels have been showing to the younger generation is that rebellion does not work because the structures they were rebelling against, not only are still here, they are now even stronger and mainly because of ‘those rebellious actions in the past’.
>> (from the video) They are taken to CMU because they have a strong network of support …
Today I am not sure if you know, that “Animal Activism” is second in “their sights” after Al Qaeda. So what do you go and do? Paint a target on your back!
>> Further, this website is tracked for significant communications of all the contributors, by vested interests of the government agencies for any forms of dissent …
Why do you think we talk bollox 99% of the time? Heh?
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prem martyn says:
BV,
ta for the like …It’s not entirely true in toto what you say re rebelling, although depending on the day of the week you could find me agreeing with you but stopping short of the implication you might be inferring that we /youth are now in thrall to descending spirals of hypocritical degeneracy with meditation replacing prayer as the Alamo of redoubt.
Put it this way.. all my friends have to be personally insulted by me as a way of life and continuously tested for their endurance in the field of fire….failing which they have to invent new insults for me… I find religious sincerity deeply insincere…
we are all the great players of our own mischief ,the derring-do farcical tragi-comedies .. and we replay our own company over and over again…just in case we haven’t learnt the role yet…..24/7
so why not act out like Osh did….
the fact that this me is ‘supposed’ to be socially hidden is absurd in itself and requires even more effort to keep it under wraps, which is just another self wrestling role. Rebelling isn’t actually an appropriate term, but truth-liver sounds like a medical condition.
‘ tsk tsk tsk, I say Doctor.. he has truth liver.’…”put him on a course of anti-repressants immediately”The holy ‘going in’ is just like the power of the prayer was to our ancestors, it’s a new-old code for opening up, dropping the mind, letting go, etc etc.. Go in .. you were never out !!! In fact out is the last place most people go. Because we still think of in as an in which we haven’t fully visited, and that creates hungup dopplegangers. Me and myself, thinking to myself i thought that … Basil Fawlty thrashing the car that won’t start with a tree branch…
Overheard me to myself conversation…” Right I’m warning you , you are only making it worse for yourself.. if you don’t go in….fully.. go on that’s it… not like that.. you have to do it with more waawaaaaa…. god you utterly selfish bastard… i’m leaving”.anyway back to the script…
I have seen in my lifetime how things have in some way evolved, and yet not at all also.
The growth hormone for this was not surrender, but as I said to an undercover policewoman on a long protest bus ride once, we just can’t keep our mouths shut.. we don’t have a choice..at work, in the home, in the family etc etc etc.. The colour drained from her face as her colleague intervened….
If you have a choice then these things don’t matter …in fact doing anything to create change without the notion that heaven is all the way to heaven is just postponement……… but when you are compelled by some sort of self enduring agency.. and fuelled by the trenchant absurdity that Havel pointed to over and over well…you just can’t help yourself…that’s why I dressed in beach shorts and turned up with a towel and inflatable ring, when in Budapest last May at my teaching course, for the dressing appropriately for work day. I said , the seaside would be an ideal place….. the proto communist instructor found himself short of concepts that morning….
”Anyone who takes himself too seriously always runs the risk of looking ridiculous ; anyone who can consistently laugh at himself does not.”
V.HavelAs for the bollox… i type so much that I’m thinking of getting a piano for my dexterous fingers and turning all this into tunes instead….
The first tune would be .. Do your balls hang low do you tie them in a bow.. altogether now….
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shantam prem says:
Martyn, If we meet for a dinner I will order only vegetarian, to salute your passion for fighting for a cause!
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prem martyn says:
Cheers Shantam, I reckon it will have to be in Ibiza where I’ve heard the veg food is great !
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prem martyn says:
understanding our scripts through deliberately recreating them is what NLP is all about…
it’s about becoming metacognitively knowing of how something arises so that it can be reproduced consciously through induction…. based on the work of Bandler Erickson Dilts et al
subtle theatre of the body mind…how we become programmed… used for ethical and unethical measures..
here is derren brown working on reproducing sacred experienceI think it’s a useful insight into how our experience is not solely ‘ owned ‘ by an conductive supraconscious agent, (enlightened guide) but through our own engagement, or lack of it through inductions .. either conscious or unconscious immersion. We’ve had LSD, we’ve got technical, meditative bio-chemical, psychological, chakric, transconscious methods. Now we have associative symbiotic mood shifting.
It’s in no way an attempt to reduce possibilities to solely one ‘theory’ but to add to our understanding range.I think this puts rooms of religious converts in bedsheets into context, yet again. A context that is used like a bosch power drill over the millennia for blessing ? Why always white bedsheets ?
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bodhi vartan says:
prem martyn says:
~ Derren Brown ~ Fear and Faith Pt-2 Full ~ God Illusion
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LksVbHxLRvYI can’t get any of those to work … it looks like it could be fun. There are a few things I don’t get in life and hypnotism is one of them. Opera is another but let’s not get into that.
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prem martyn says:
BV..
well i’ve just yutube link-clicked and the video works.. anyone else having probs ?-
bodhi vartan says:
“This video contains content from Channel 4, who has blocked it in your country on copyright grounds.”
Do I take it to be some kind of Stephen Hawking with jokes?
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bodhi vartan says:
I don’t really know what you are saying PM. You might be too complex for your own good. I recommend more Zorba, much more Zorba.
By the way, it would easier to convert moslems to xtianity than greeks to vegetarianism …
My Big Fat Greek Wedding “He don’t eat no meat?”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IjM-fGuutzA-
prem martyn says:
I had one of my very few satoris after reading Zorba the Greek …..
one full moon night…
it’s true… when I was but a sannyas virgin in the Green Hotel on Bundgarden Rd….funny things happen in buddhafields….wonder if Derren Brown could reproduce that…
I wasn’t making sense ? I was actually practising the ancient art of gibberish, BV, not to worry.
cheers for the vid
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prem martyn says:
BV the 11.07 post of mine works if you read it as paragraph by paragraph.. its about living life without ambitiousness for the inner self and letting all that propaganda about a meditative template just be trashed. Why not Make your own meditations and call it anything that suits you to give it purpose if you need…. i’ve stopped this compartmentalisation of experience….its all it. Inner Meditative Purpose is just stylised hype.
secondly i hope some nlp-ers get the language of my 1.27 post .. watching the derren brown vid is self explanatory for basic guide to nlp
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bodhi vartan says:
prem martyn says:
>> …. i’ve stopped this compartmentalisation of experience….its all it.I don’t doubt it for a mo.
>> Inner Meditative Purpose is just stylised hype.
The word “Purpose” confuses me. The “Purpose” is always “Entertainment”.
“Inner Meditative”??? Is there an “Outer Meditative”. Samuel Jackson reckons you always look good in pictures if you look like like you are thinking about something and that is the only time I do the medative. Is that what you mean?
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prem martyn says:
BV, i’m not selling this meditwatsit stuff, so you’ll have to ask someone who does…
i think we’ve already caught the wave of the in out semantics quite well….’nuff said…
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Lokesh says:
LSD put me off meat back in the sixties. Vegetarianism is an asthetic thing as I see it. I rarely eat meat but I do love fish. I also have qualms about it when swimming in the sea and viewing marine species. Last year I dived down and freed a large octopus from a trap. I watched as he pulsed down into the depths and disappeared into the shadows. Setting him free made me feel good, but I’ll bet the fisherman was majorly pissed off about his broken trap. Message..you can’t please everyone.
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prem martyn says:
Loving fish is no problem,
but you mean the man who eats them raw out of the tank in a Fish called Wanda who loves fish, sort of love….. mmm?
In Bristol acquarium the Octopus there has to have his toys replaced because he gets bored, even doing the rubik cube, and sinks back into his underwater pot and sulks.
When you hear of Arun’s stories of Osho and animals, all sorts.. well even St Francis would cheer and weep.
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do not look at live octopus eating in Korea on youpuke, as it might sway your opinion into thinking that actually North and South is a bit like dog eat dog and deserve each other.Giving carnivores a hard time , I agree with you there Lokesh, is actually high on my list of aesthetic pursuits …..which is why I’ll be at Veggie Pride Fest in Geneva (see link) with my best beautiful meditative voice and insulting placard…
http://veggiepride.ch/wordpressdataEng/practical-information/22-2/
…Oh and also to make sure the media have me, the World representative of the Osho ECHITNDI foundation speaking about Osho’s vision for dietary love.
Last time I was chatted up by the media I appeared as part of a full colour spread for one of Belgium’s weekly colour mags, interviewed by a female reporter ( Joanie de Rijke ) who later went to Afghanistan got kidnapped, then released for big ransom. Moral of the story ??
Today placards, tomorrow editorship of Sannyas Veganistan News… it’s obvious innit ?
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prem martyn says:
As regards your dietary penchants Lokesh… you might actually be a reincarnated Cathar Parfait ,if you restrict yourself to fish and veg.. but you really ought to just eat it flappingly live, eskimo style, not just raw, and certainly not cooked for all the benefits and let the no self off the hook of having your fish and eating it, without the aesthetic preamble.The smell of fish is aesthetic ?
Are we talking the same fish here ?
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Lokesh says:
Octopi are mysterious creatures. They love to gather shiney shells and line them up on a shelf to admire. It sometimes works to their disadvantage as speargun fishers know their ways.
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prem martyn says:
This blog is about Octopee..and how you can catch from them Totnes Mutual Congratulation Introverted Aspiration Syndrome ‘ when after bathing in sea water the victim is grabbed and bittten near their tentacles.
Be careful out there, it may look harmless but you could remain unaware of how unaware you are …..for life.
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Russian president haunted by home made shadow .
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prem martyn says:
Goodbye Thatcher,
Goodbye Galtieri and the fascists, Goodbye Putin, Goodbye Bush, Goodbye Blair, Goodbye Ayatollahs, Goodbye Obama,Goodbye DNPK, Goodbye Asian Dog Stranglers and Eaters.Talk truth to power…
Thank you Osho.
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prem martyn says:
Sting later became infamous however for this…
following his more personally fulfilling Tantric lessons and internal enquiry from top internal aviator and space case pilot ,Paul Lowe , aka motivation specialist and penis healer, the former Teertha of Pune 1.
it’s amazing how much spirituality can really inform our ethics and sensitized self when we re-arrange our frustration into de facto fait accompli…Hey presto, acquiescent Magic baba. !
I’m awaiting Moo-cow-jis single , every Cow’s throat you slit.
http://www.uznews.net/news_single.php?lng=en&cid=33&nid=12553
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prem martyn says:
Sting’s justification at the end of this above article is haunting for a man who could donate all his royalties instead of his volte faces as a testimony for his music.
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bodhi vartan says:
All the countries surrounding Russia and China are going to be our friends and their enemies (especially if they have oil) and that is the end of that. Now if it means we have to send them some geriatric pop stars and royals to achieve it well so be it, no matter who or what they boil for breakfast.
Sting was good in the early days but for that last quarter of a century he has been a twat.
I am still waiting to see your plan on how we are going to do it ourselves …
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prem martyn says:
BV i refer you to Osho, his life, his oeuvre, and my post of 8th April at 12.43 am
Havel calls it the unseen ‘hope’,
sannyasin Polymaths need that word changed via Boehmian perceptives of this being that in holographic interweaves
Tatwamasi Swetketu
or have they got all of you by the Bauls ?
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bodhi vartan says:
prem martyn says:
BV i refer you to Osho, his life, his oeuvre, and my post of 8th April at 12.43 amAs long as I don’t have to get down to the molecular size to see it that will be fine.
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prem martyn says:
Come to International Veggie Pride in Geneva.May 18 demo. Its very meditative and good for the no self. Arun won’t be there or Sheela or Amrito or the Greek Afroz Meditation Centre Kapos… or Devateeth or Gurdjieff or MooCow ji as they are busy raising consciousness….but I will….and so will Osho….
kiss kiss
News….
FranceIn October 2011, the European Vegetarian Union reported that the French government’s Décret 2011-1227 and associated Arrêté (September 30, 2011) effectively outlaws the serving of vegan meals at any public or private school in France. Similar decrees are proposed for kindergartens, hospitals, prisons and retirement homes.[25]
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they give 100 thousand euros a year from their ‘activism’ to sponsor Amazon tribes…
”FFF does in fact, have a solid record when it comes to the “forest” part of their equation. While accounting may not look like their strong suit, Leona estimates that the non-profit organisation has made in the region of €100,000 (£85,000) a year, since it started in 2004. Their website details how the money has been spent on buying up land and promoting permaculture and indigenous lifestyles in Brazil, Peru and other countries. And as the film attests, they also live a frugal lifestyle, wearing clothes and eating food they find in rubbish bins, rather than spending the charity’s money.”
http://www.guardian.co.uk/film/2013/apr/11/green-sex-activists-documentary
funky monkey…
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fff donated here to slovakian bears and wolf protection buy buying land in perpetuity. Havel also donated, to the same forest.
http://www.fuckforforest.com/en/ecoslovakia.html
the million euros it has donated in 9 years of fucking online is probably less than a few days of profits made by Osho Fuckit International in just a few seasons of its historical investments to save consciousness for humanity via lawyers in New York…..or car parks.
money which has disappeared into swiss accounts that only sannyassin canadian fugitives from the Tax man are privvy to.And if anyone wants to know yes I donated when I had the cash to environmental and land purchase stuff , though I don’t think anyone would pay to see my donger online now, I support any fellow sannyasinners to join up.
Crazy ……I hope so.
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Prem Martyn would like to announce his forthcoming trainings at the Osho Paradisia Centre somewhere in Europe.
Owing to the fantastic success of last year’s events where over 10 million people attended the ‘Hello and what’s your name’ festival.
This year we have gone all 60′s nostalgia , remembering how we would often sit in the park and strum a guitar and then feel uplifted in the company of friends who just happened to be as high as a kite on some illegal cocktail.
But our event is slighly different …you will get high simply through our prestige, which is quite remarkable really, as our ability to entertain anybody for longer than a few minutes in private company is severely limited. In fact we prefer to dine away from participants if possible, and at least at a separate table.Yes, this year We will be renaming our festivals Oshenge and Oshtonbury, just to get you in the mood.
Luckily you will be in safe hands with a bunch of professional rebels who between them can count years of living in their own company and having others pay them for the privilege.Here is the Calendar of Events….
Day 1 Morning
Turn up and pay us a big wadge of cash for the coming three day bonanza.
Day 1 A bit later.. Watch us as one of us goes down to the bank to cash the cheques.Day 1 Later still. Notice how some of us actually have a lot of experience in soft skill selling which will leaves you wanting to have the same intense look and smiles that we have, and leave you with a feeling that you must be missing out. That bit is actually quite clever of us we think. Even though we won’t ever tell you what our private lives are really like.That isn’t for sale.Ever.
Day 1 Slightly later still and slightly delayed welcome as microphone speaker system is replaced with a loud hailer, owing to a technical hitch. Instructions by loud hailer help to keep order together with a handy whistle and a fog horn.
The first actual meditation will be to listen to the number of trainings we have ourselves trained in over the years which should wow you with enough admiration so as not to be so stupid as to ask any further questions. If at this point you do not feel impressed enough , we will be handing out cardboard cut out faces of ourselves, which will help you disguise the profound and deep intimidation at being yourself and wanting to instead be more like us.
These faces come in a range of easy to cut out masked looks including smiley,
happy smiley,
smiley happy,
intense and conscious,
knowing and smiley or just plain more powerful than you, you paying pillock.After lunch we will be trying to make sense of what exactly the ‘White robe swanning around am I bother-hood’ is all about including the discovery of how being very close to a master can actually build whole communities of aspiring wannabes.
The evening concert will consist of favourite tunes sung by our resident Insannyas ,laden-with-deep-significance-music-Band, including :
PlinkyPlonky on Bass
Perky Planka on Drums
Plonker Lonker on Flute
Dinky Dulala on Tambourine
and Stunning Vocals by The Swedish Chef from the Muppets.
With their favourite Indian Tunes including
Maha Accountanta Loves Dis Songji
We are all rebels , Gosh yes we are aren’t we ?
Where did I park my Range Rover, beloved Osho.?Please book early as we have our reputations to pay for together with the rent on our outstanding mortgages.
*Prem Martyn has trained in Star Gazing neo Wish Fulfilment, Core Cleansing and Wallet Draining, Being Happier and More Conscious than You are because you’re new to this Game, Osho Orgasmic Hand Tantra, Sacred Wholistic Dance Worship and Not Spotting any Talent, with advanced Talent Spotting on Tuesday Nights. SunnShine Skycloud Inner Vision with Maha Hoho Valium Tyrebendazole.
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bodhi vartan says:
>> *Prem Martyn has trained in Star Gazing neo Wish Fulfilment, Core Cleansing
PM better be careful with what he is feeding his subconscious.
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prem martyn says:
http://www.captiveanimals.org/news/2013/04/is-that-light-we-see-at-the-end-of-a-56-year-tunnel
Great News for animals particularly after the horrific UK elephant beatings of 2011 which ended in prosecution….
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/elephant-owners-on-cruelty-charges-6260431.html
sometimes we need the good news to show that decent people can achieve good things
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STOP PRESS..
Sannyas News becomes too successful and writers face unemployment.In a herald of things to come, one of the internet’s most succesful and true to Osho’s vision magazines, is facing an article shortage.
Despite hurling invective and well-appointed personal disappointment across thousands of miles in a daily broadcast of libertarian values, this indomitable ship faces a skeleton crew that has been recently left high and dry (no ice )
The editor has complained of poorly written contributions, missed deadlines, bad punctuation and spoling mastooks worthy of premmary scholl.
In a mad dash to ramp-up circulation from its famous peak of 1883, when the original Wisden’s and Home Batting Analyser became Atrophy News then later the Bearded Gazette, and much much later the Anarcho Syndicalist Zen and Osho Money Maker, Sannyas News has struggled to invest in new technology and failed to take heed of competition from anti- social networking sites, such as itself.Or Osho-myarsebook.comIn late night negotiations with a mysterious underwriter and new age promoter, who refused to reveal his name (Parpert Rupdoch ) Sannyas News editors have been seen taking large thermoses filled with tea and tiffin into the retirement home headquarters ready for the nervous negotiations aimed at saving Osho’s favourite weekly Beano, the SunSpot News and Hot Air Releaser.
In a statement to Deliberately Unconscious TV, the popular New Age side-splitting, consciousness, hair-raising and family TV entertainment channel, an editor who refused to give his name (Sw.Darth Vharmden) was heard to reminisce that things would never have got this bad if they had only given him a pay rise instead of advice on how to cook tasty meals for one, from a selection of Linda Mcartneys Fine Frozen Foods for Advaeaters.
There have been positive signs however , which have proven how necessary a dystopian voice filled with thousands of pounds worth of opinion garnered from a barely literate readership is, to the urgent need to prevent Global Warbling by the self-satisfied and self-appointed crown heads of Europe ,who just happen to be the world’s most funky, secret rebel readers of this hugely popular organ. Especially if they are morganatically-marrying, upwardly mobile seekers, finders or keepers of other people’s proletarian less fortunate than her, loot, lot. Who wouldn’t know universal truths even if they were to be bitten on their non-enlightened arses. What a germane thought that is to sleep with at night, eh ? If you can bear to live with yourself that is. Fat chance of that, eh ? So why not book now for some integrity , go on…(see adverts)
Anyway back to the news. In a watershed moment, worthy of the worst news to hit the New Age stock market, now estimated to be worth billions in undeclared cash transactions, Primal Therapists have clubbed together to suppress the news getting through from the writing and article-thirsty, front desk. And that is, that …Sunshine News is likely to get a make-over, which would mean taking in revenue from ‘appropriate advertising’.
When asked what this might be, the leader of the ‘Primal Stick the Boot in and Scream you m**th*r F*c*k*R’ Osho tendency (Ma Brando Tarantino) speaking from a safe house on a Greek island, or perhaps Denmark, or was it Israel said … , ‘ whilst we feel and blah blah blah feel , blah blah blah feel.. blahh blah, just watch your tits if you know what’s good for you.’” Well that sort of says it all really, because if we knew what was good for us we wouldn’t be in this endless sorry saga would we, or paying for your groups for advice” , replied a source close to Sannays News who refused to be named although he had lived next door to them on a Greek island once (Swimmy Pram Swam Swum).
The latest news is that although recent contributors have taken some hefty internal bickering side-swipes, in what was seen as a purge of unfaithful party card carrying cadres …..the funeral of Sungrateful News will NOT now go ahead, and that the editors wishes have been respected in a last ditch effort at preventing Kim Il Sann from launching a pre-emptive strike at closing this last bastion of Osho Freedom . and all sensible nice people who just love to smile from a place of deep knowing. ( £250 the weekend plus discount for early birds).
Sannyas News has informed us that a Glossy all-colour version complete with Lifestyle and Handy Home Tea-Pot-Warmer Knitting Tips, plus a cut down section for short meaningless mirthless jokes overwritten by loads of more important self satisfying gibberish, will be on the shelves next week, and so will its readership, (with an average age of 93.)
Stay tuned.
and…
LOve….
(is all you need .. ,altogether now….with thanks to the Beatles who made an alternative version of all this years ago, which you could actually sing along to for just 7/6d or 35 pence.)-
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ps, the the’ mirthless joke’ line was written as a swipe at OshOrthodoxy and its mouthpieces like osho news, which have no understanding of invective nonsense and are frightened of it. Its not related to your piece overleaf, and indeed I wrote it before noticing your new post on the horse joke.I have re written that line in my own website to make the mickey taking clearer.
Cheers from the back of beyond..lovely mountain day here…
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a4Fv98jttYA&feature=player_embedded#!
I believe this is the Life Affirming Video that tells it visually …
Enjoy…and unite…
wherever and whenever we can…
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Congratulations to the m5s movement for using internocratics and networking to shift the stupor and criminal mind set that was post war italy…
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/elisabeth-braw/italian-protest-leader-be_b_3084346.html
personally I consider the access to consciousness to be speeding up as a notional possibility in all spheres.. it’s at least on the map now, because of networking and the spread of information…and evolution..
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Well that’s an interesting question from so many angles…Shantam…
I will draw up a list of possible considerations..Do you have an hour spare to read…..?
Objectively consider this, some history…
1) As the British have a terrible interpersonal emotive fluency/ intelligence due in large part to a war mongering, patrician , lack of indulgent maternal-affective range or bonding in childhood, televisual domesticity, where interaction is sponsored by sterile tv drama and where the pirates get drunk at the weekends to connect with others, with fists not hugs, we then get Robots.2)In compensation we try to cathart the residue or frustrated puss through individual eccentricity, conviviality , music and well observed laughter-based rebellion to the world, as understood recently by the non english IrishScotsman Danny Boyle who sold the olympic Queen to the world.
We as a culture have understood the need for deep unbridled satire since at least Shakespeare and on through the 17th century writers and pamphleteers, into the vegetarian scientists(Newton )and veg romanticists (Shelley ,Wollstencraft, Godwin. Keats ) and into women throwing themselves under horses for the right to vote before WW1.We thus led the world in different good ways too.3) After the two world wars the UK working class were no longer willing or able to take orders from a class elite. So a private professional army was eventually formed, like piratical privateers, and unions developed(to protect class) out of the Anarchist movements of the 19th century …which btw Churchill was adamant in destroying, including the shooting of miners at Tony Pandy in the 20′s on his orders and the suppression of Anarchist unions and the hanging of mutinous sailors, when he was lord of the fleet.
Thatcher came in at the point of loss of faith in domestic markets and the opening up of the global capital markets to unfettered control by stock and banks.The UK was in an enviable position to re-organise its economy because of the billions coming in from oil. This was able to welfare pay support the closing ‘uneconomic’ coal and steel and manufacturing industries. The social networks of smaller vulnerable communities which had grown familiar with post war growth, and state socialist agreements were now being disposed of especially in the industrial north.
Now step in Thatcher as the petty bourgeois ambitious girl inspired by Churchillian values to put the UK up for sale. She took elocution english lessons to transform her speech into middle english and all the post ww2 trauma emotionally traumatized boys lined up in her cabinet ,for this matron from their boarding schools to guide them into being proper prefects and administering the bitter medicine to the rest of the school.
In return for disbanding union agreed five year collective bargaining pacts, some of the aspiring petty bourgeois public were given profits from multiple share deals which they had to buy to get rich quick, house prices rose then crashed and , you could buy then sell your council home, if you had a job to do that with, which was perfect for the richer south east and conservative heartlands.
She also faced down a war with Argentine dictators who having been put there by Americans in ’76 wanted the oil under the Falklands . On winning the war , with the support of the US military satellites,she obviously achieved cult status. In the meantime her robotic emotionally traumatised but very typical english manner became divisive with further political losses including the Poll tax, and her distance from her own political cadres.The matron wanted now to be the headmaster, and this her public schoolboy cabinet resented, and eventually brought her down.She also had to make concessions in Ireland.She was very very lucky to have a man of the intelligence of Gorbachev to negotiate with as it was likely that Reagan could have pushed his paranoid predecessors into a North Korean type scenario.with her assent.
So in 11 years a lot of internal confrontations, which led to the narcissism of Blair’ s Thatcherite policies (he was from Eton public school ) and uncontrolled wars. She epitomises the ruling political apparatchiks,who though they appease and manage and massage the voters are separate from them. What is less understood is how politics is the new religion which determines our cultural and intellectual and emotive interactions through defining how authority works and what is expected for social cohesion in a command type culture.
When Oliver Cromwell died in the 17th century, his body was disinterred and his head removed from the skeleton in a symbolic judgement from the returning Royalty.Purges and hangings continued of Cromwell’s supporters.
In the UK we have now become less radical in Parliament than ever our history allowed, so that our only green MP was voted in last year. This is partly the result of winning two world wars, where the society and political processes becomes comfortable with itself, not needing thought itself but simply the institutional reliable power of ‘due process’, without appearing to want to dictate to its electorate, Russian style,…. or removing the poor from believing in their own democracy American style, so that they end up not voting, or being able to organise. An average of 60% of the US votes, and for mainstream parties.The rest being effectively disenfranchised in cultural and real poverty.
In the UK only around 40% were voting during the Thatcher years with her getting significant territorial votes, but not in absolute poll numbers because of the UK system. 60-ish per cent wasn’t bothering to vote by the end of her term…(normally around 30 percent don’t.) This is what happens when you remove the hope of change that democratic language bombast requires, for its legitimacy. Her confrontational style was therefore losing the legitimacy for her new world.The posts were shifting but she wasn’t.
If the day ever comes when Bush and Blair are tried for War Crimes,i will be popping champagne. In personal terms I and my immediate world benefited from her economic policies, in small but significant ways,but it wasn’t through her employment policies but her financial ones.That is also as a result of being in the right place at the right time,or even luck of the draw, astuteness, and living in a world made by others coercion and gain , and having some left over too.
Its all another era in my memory and not significant enough to even clap about.
If you want to enjoy that period and understand its own forms of double speak, just sit back and tune into spitting image videos on you tube. Its like today’s Simpsons but much more relaxed and user friendly.
Moral of story …
If you use the police state and army to bolster your image in confrontation, ultimately you have to pay the price of disapproval, as when Blair had to resign quietly because his MPs would not further support a war mongerer, once they realised he had lied to Parliament over Iraq.
Thatcher is an institutional target for all the lack of engagement people are forced to endure whilst being used . When I travel I often ask when will the war on terror be over , so I can pack my toothpaste normally. This is my my small attempt at not allowing political mindsets to cloud over our ability to engage and relate, and to remove the emotive authority the state fear depends on. I memorably brought the connecting bag check to a halt in a uk airport when some teenage spotty clown tried to tell me that my plastic see through box had to be replaced by a plastic bag for a £1 , having travelled as cleared by Prague airport security. I used big cathartic voice ,theatre style, to ask if the Germans had actually won the war and were we subject to military officers and law now ? About a huindred people were hushed in reverence at my clappable performance.Now then ask Parmartha why he won’t allow bare breasted Femen girls photographed shouting Putin is a dictator to him , the day before yesterday onto this site ? I’d be very interested to know the answer.
Bloopers and outtakes from a blog that rhymes with Sunday Mass Pews
I remember a time , long ago, when there was a lot of moderation of other people’s words, deferentially , apparently in some reference to Osho’s work, which was nothing of the sort , in my view, arguably.
People were told that the sharing of growthful or grown-up words or even ‘ideas’ via time delayed ‘approval’ meant that there was some sort of ‘vitality’ or ‘legacy’, happening. Comments though WERE made that not everyone should have been subjected to, BUT that had not much to do with Osho, and typing them did, then, actually became benign and non-transformational, although I don’t speak from any personal experience.
These permitted words and joined-up writing were let through as ‘ proper engagement ‘. However it seems that in some form of twisted Irish logic, Osho’s legacy had been broken, and these allowed words were not a ‘cutting the edge off ‘ ‘panacea’ for ‘with limits’ opinions; which in any case , shortly after they had been read were completely forgotten anyway and had no long lasting encouragement.
Some words may have ended up being read in Kilburn or Camden , although I don’t know.
Osho even said that if he had been moderated he would have avoided talking and just folded his umbrella, as an old Hindu Bollywood trick would have it and carried on Singing in the Rain deftly and with a lightness of being.
Here is an approved CD album cover photo of how I see things developing in future with a picture of what things could be like, after some tea and cakes.
https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/14767_344756165639527_2109443731_n.jpg
What do SN punters think of this particular punt, even if it is seen with rear view , hindsight ?
beauty unwrapped
art beauty desire ….thats the truth.
every day see this
cool eh ?
be amazed
what a maze life is of surprises
orchids… not photoshopped
yet another like on facebook… sigh….
why so serious ?
check ur sanity test
Handy Central American Translator for visiting communes with.
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Alonely Planet Travel Translator for Central America.
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> English speaker
<< Spanish speaker
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> Hello Mr Costa Rican peasant, I want to be alone.
( > Hola Sr. Costa Rica campesino, quiero estar solo )
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<< Pues aquí tienes un consejo entonces, ¿Por qué no te largas !
( << Well here’s a tip then , Why don’t you fuck off ! )
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> Excuse me are you enlightened ?
( > Discúlpeme estás iluminado ? )
<< Este país fue invadido por los imperialistas yanquis nos traen la Era de la Ilustración libertades. Vete a la mierda pronto.
( << This country was invaded by Yankee imperialists bringing us the Age of Enlightenment freedoms. Go fuck yourself soon. )
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< < Hey, hombre blanco, ¿sabías que Tyohar en español significa un hombre que pone su sabiduría en el Estadio de la Mierda, mientras que jugar fuera en el Sunderland FC.
( < < Hey ,white man, did you know that Tyohar in Spanish means a man who brings his wisdom into the Stadium of Shite , whilst playing away at Sunderland FC.)
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> Have you been alone long ?
( > Ha estado sola mucho tiempo ? )
<< Que era hasta que apareciste.
( << I was, until you showed up. )
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> Everyone here can say what they like, for free, isn’t that amazing ?
( > Aquí todo el mundo puede decir lo que quieran de forma gratuita ¿No es increíble. )
<< Puedo decir lo que no me gusta de forma gratuita, también.
( << I can tell what I don’t like for free, too. )
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> Can you help me find my way to the Arsenal supporters club for tonight’s discourse ?
( > ¿ Puedes ayudarme a encontrar mi camino hacia el Arsenal peña para el discurso de esta noche ? )
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<< Fue un discurso justo, los discípulos escucharon bien en el primer tiempo y jugaron juntos como un equipo, aunque estábamos un poco flojo en la parte trasera, donde nos abandonamos a la 443 a la 424 bajo presión. Todavía tenemos un resultado, y al final del día todos nos abrazamos unos a otros con sus camisas.
<< It was a fair discourse, the disciples listened well in the first half and played together as a team , though we were a bit loose at the back, where we gave way with the 443 to their 424 under pressure. Still we got a result, and at the end of the day everyone hugged each other with their shirts off.
> How meditatively marvellous !
( > Me cago de la risa )
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<< Let’s discuss this more ambivalently on a blog, with some action discourse replays.
( << Vamos a discutir esto más ambivalente en un bloggo, porque estoy sufriendo insolación del sol aquí, y estoy extrañamente atraído por su Guru, que no sabe nada acerca de plátanos que crecen demasiado ? Tuvimos una mala cosecha el año pasado ya que la mayoría de mi pueblo había llevado a ver partidos de fútbol en su lugar.)
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Life does it again in the pacific islands
Wish I knew those songs….
Isnt life great …. Yeaaaaayyyyy
Also Watch the very last bit….. if you don’t watch it all…magic…!
everybody dance now
last time humanity picked an all singing all dancing guru, generations later some are still paying for errors of possible misinterpretations..see here…. We cannot be too careful when leaving our spiritual legacy , especially as bras come without instructions for use…
sing lovers sing
what lovely voices from the pacific….
Never look down on somebody unless you’re helping him up…
Sinead O’Connor is a vegan Irish singer and songwriter
La vita Svizzera.. Grazie e Merci Stephanie ….et notre cher doux ami Nemo et toutes les jolies chattes…
http://beta.dropshots.com/oshopirates/media/76095264
( My home vid photo gallery )
Oui, ici en haut c’est un video pour tous le monde 🙂
Sing along to Joe Cocker and Jennifer Warnes…..
View from the Roof of The World
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I don’t get up as high as I could here on my mountain walks, though I’m heading for our local mountain lake tomorrow, a good three, knee-exercising, hours away. The forest passes lead from the tiny village and within just an hour, or 400 metres of up up up, I’m into high, empty-of-dwellings, wilderness. There’s still snow in patches a few hundred metres above me, and tonight was a stunning night of baroque painterly indulgence.
Directly over Mont Blanc , just an hour beyond the end of our own 1,5 km high chasm-dropping, choo-choo train, mountain pass there hung this evening a pastel grey curtain of rain cloud, which wafted, skimmed across the top of the ice-cream-meringue Mont, whipping up discreet squalls so that her ‘Mrs Whippy’ crest disappeared into fine gossamer greys, progressing in feathered billowy sails, of deniered rain. The evening sun not to be outdone, joined in. Our end-of-the-valley mountain, a towering sharp ridged menace of snow-flecked grey granite, softened to the evening sun’s insistent apricot hues.
Granite mountain, slam-dunked with a layer of 18th century, Neapolitan landscape, fine layered apricot paint. This collection of peaks, which usually stand in silhouette at evening, became divided in their loyalties. A chalk palette of familiar dark grey on one triangular side, which split straight down one 3D edge into the loveliest apricots of yummy yum yumm yumm all the way down her other flanks. Orange and greys, being vibrant at their confluence, cause the eye to scintillate. Despite the fading sun, this colour show thrilled translucently alive. I’m alive, I’m alive , ‘Hava Nagila’ . ‘ I can do two tone mountains , la di dah,’ the evening-sunshow called out, ‘ I’m just brilliant aren’t I, woohooh look at me…..yee haaahhh’. Tonight was a Corellian symphony orchestra night.. The sheet of grey cloud that hung deep behind our mountain, far, far behind Chamonix to the south west and which similarly hovered over Mont Blanc, lit up, unable to resist any further the overlayed mellow-evening-powdered-apricot talcs. Just coincidentally and by complete and utter chance, the valleys below us now , in daytime, are also heaving-full of real apricots, and this local variety has deep blushes in its colouring. Do the sky and trees talk to each other at night? Why Of course they do.They even dream together.
To the West the deeper greys of the sky-sheet-rain-sails were interspersed with someone’s pastel shower cloud of floss-pinks-apricot-blush-peachy, sundaes.This connecting landscape seems now to resist the independent naming of its constituents..Every single day and every single night and every single moment of every single day, she does this. This, this, this. Tonight was the first night I had seen her do this particular ‘this’, though. And I had nearly not gone out for this particular walk. Note to self, ‘always go out for a particular walk, as they really are, and they do their best to remind you that you are too.’ Our lovely Alsatian-cross taught me that. Delight in the grass, the leaves, the land, don’t just look, but enrich this bodily known self with these sense-delighting joys. He was a lovely lovely boy with the handsomest face and beautifullest pointy wolfy ears,ears that always bowed down in friendship-recognition yes, love, of his truest friend, his very own Stephanie.
Some months ago, here in the Paradise land of Toblerone, in my favourite season of the gold and russet autumn, I had been going through some uncomfortablenesses which wouldn’t leave me happily alone . ( Unlike losing weight, you cannot go on a self loss programme to shed any unwanted moods that are as old occupants complete with familiar inside sensations) . the sort of ‘ why am I here if utter self-love is not reality,oh bugger-mundanity-and-repetition-for-a -laugh-type, constant existential moroseness. With the extra time on my hands and the utter freedom around ( we had the last occupied chalet up the mountain road and any itinerant weekenders were no longer disturbing our idyll), the days were emptying themselves into the blessed rest of autumn. But I wasn’t. And this particular succession of days was just me and our lovely, lovely alsatian husky cross , the three catesses,( tinned food, post-prandial self-licking whores, all three of them) in the all-wooden nineteenth century chalet for two.
Now as we all know from mountaneering class, altitude pressure at 1800 metres causes exercise to be more intense, water boils slower, and swearing, when chopping wood is followed by hollering to hear the echo of triumphant wood splitting yelps that fill the empty evening air. I wonder if … ” Jeeeesus Fuuuuuckkkkkk ”…. is actually a little known Swiss yodel, as it seemed to fit the still dew-damp autumn airs perfectly on more than one occassion. So, I had taken to mood clearing with renewed axe-chopping verve.’ Take that ! ‘, oh piece of wood with added mood, until the wood disappeared flying over my head, but the mood alas didn’t do the same. Emptiness and mountains seem to be great places to get a reality check on one’s own altitude.Good evening ladies and Gentlefarts, we will be flying at an altitude of roughly the same as always and your Flight Engineer Captain Grump will be doing the same thing he has done over and over, whilst enduring life and himself, in passive hesitation. Tea and coffee will be served later to interrupt the repetitive pointlessnes and refilled with shallow desperation.Thank you and enjoy your flight-life.Isn’t the planet and even flying, great, especially when one can take imponderable facts like being 30,000 feet up or being born as just another thing to do on one’s fridge check list. If someone hadn’t have invented aversive overlyfamiliar self mundanity then the world and associated experiences would have lacked that grey backdrop which makes all the other colours stand out in.
……more later….
Remembering Osho .. in delight.. Something beautiful
Dedicated to Osho…in the same symbolic spirit that Sinead sings of these troubles..Osho talked of the world similarly…
Sinead-…terrific voice, words and musicianship…
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ascent of the eiger in 2 hours 47 minutes..
bloody hell
don’t let the bastards grind you down
live it live it live it love it
sandinista… victory song
kris kritofferson… viva l’amor del corazon contro todos las dictaturas y la destruccion de este mundo lindo
Swiss Law licences men with small penises to hunt Lynx for the supermarkets… ‘ Its Official.’
Swiss Law licences men with small penises to hunt Lynx for the supermarkets… ‘ Its Official.’
12 million Swiss are threatened with extinction or 1 lynx. You decide.
http://www.thelocal.ch/20130715/bern-oks-shooting-of-sheep-eating-lynx#disqus_thread
Ps who is craggy island Ted ? No prizes, me hearties.
Feeling Ronree and unRubbed.. then Read this..
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-23255526
click on the link
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-23273109
You thought sannyas was bad until you found out that the Scientologists got there first…
my love
What a stunning voice… thanks to Sinead… and the irish songsters
’till the early morning light…
How or why are we born… Luck of the draw ?… to do what with exactly ? How many times have you thought that,
‘I could have been born anywhere as anyone else’ , or, I was born like me and can’t even understand how that came to be, as I mostly can’t even fix a plug ‘, or even, ‘ You can’t take it with you… so where the bloody hell did it come from ? ‘
Yet we play at being ourselves from many different places. Publically, then again privately , then unconsciously,or even in sleep, and all given by what from where? The grace of God , or the holy spirit ? Sure, we act out as if we have organised every single functioning cell and all we have to do is launch ourselves into our daily rituals as if there was no tomorrow. But this thing called life is very very unique, …. officer.
Absurd, when one considers the chances of it being like it is. We see , we hear, we notice , we smell the lillies, we complicate, we resolve. We even think there’s rationalities to endure like work or the search for the fulfilled libido…. and we continue to act out. Albeit compulsively, because even not to be, would require something inconceivable when actually even nothing, ….is. Obliged to the ineffable. Ineffably obliged.
So from that point of view, looping the loop becomes the only observable responsibility.
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The considerations become too vast to maintain our fragile credibility in the face of. We loop and loop again, until the factness of life becomes us. No longer agents of will, but the will itself made flesh…. but something that doesn’t include us any longer , the spirit made flesh. Just take a moment.
Notice.
Fuck me, I’m alive.
in-eff-able and utterly full of experience, which can be too much, because apparently you or I have no choice in the matter… we never did…and if you did, just thank your lucky stars…
of course if life is a bit worse than you prefer in any way shape or form.. you know , when being faced with it when you’d rather not be… or when there’s suffering right next to you and you can do little or nothing to stop it repeating, or when the little flecks get in your eye, and the tears flow….
remember the inexorable endless demand to just … oh well just make it through…..
Thank you Sooooo much, Osho…… and the life that made you and all and us and…
Take the ribbon from your hair….
Posts about deconstructing Teaching with me and Scott Thornbury.
Posts about deconstructing Teaching with me and Scott Thornbury.
Sott Thornbury has written this A-Z of EFL pedagogy with contributions by us .It exists on this his website, and has just closed for contributions.. If you look for the name martyn shannehaye, complete photo, you’ll see what I say of his venerable mix of vanguard exploratory teaching on the one hand, and yet the establishment for whom he has co written the bible of teaching manuals used throughout the EFL world to straightjacket people with.
Its a fascinating exchange, and I’m glad he let my posts throughto challenge the orthodox world viewand any of his role in forming it despite his best intentions.
Sound, Spirals and Silence
Jill Purce the noted UK sound healer says of the voice…
http://www.jillpurce.com/articles_unbelievable.htm
” But the techniques go much deeper than simply drumming up the courage to sing a song. ‘The healing properties of the voice are extremely profound,’ she says. ‘The only way we can get access to the inside of cells and molecules and organs and limbs without being cut open is by making sound. Making a humming sound, you vibrate the body in a very extreme way. When you vibrate the body you affect everything inside it, you can give yourself a positive massage or you can mess things up. If you don’t use your voice, it’s like an instrument lying on a shelf going more and more out of tune. Singing is not only one of the most powerful forms of meditation – working with the emotions and with the psyche and psychology – it is also a profound means for healing and one which everyone has access to, but in general doesn’t understand or use.”
( Nice Jill Purce 70’s Video Documentaries here
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lUr10sz_hes
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rlnKk5F8cxw
The Lord’s prayer, chanting version, which she taught me many years ago, was used as a one breath invocation mantra, much like the overtone chanting she teaches and practises. She mentioned the source for this also lay in the works of Gudjieff- Ouspensky, which mentions that monks in the near east were still practising the same way . .Their books here.
http://www.homeoflife.com/page1/maina.html
Or perhaps I’ll send Jill purce an email and ask her for the instructions and source which I remember go like this…
Draw in a deep breath, and on a low tone below middle C use the text of the lords Prayer and without stopping , whilst joing the words up altogether..
actually dear friends I have just found the original material after some painful googling….
here it is in toto as quoted from the source himself Mr G..
” We continued to talk in English, and the conversation, which I have good reason to remember, proceeded somewhat as follows. I reconstruct it as best I can from the notes I made at the time.
“Who taught you to say the Lord’s Prayer like that?”
“Nobody. It just came into my head.”
“Say the whole prayer through in the same manner.”
I did so with one or two hesitations.
“You interrupted it. You said the first lines without stopping, but then you took a breath. That’s wrong. This is the way your Lord’s Prayer was meant to be said. Listen, and watch.”
He folded his hands in his lap, fixed his eyes on me, and began to breathe in slowly and deeply, holding his breath a few moments, sitting motionless. It was very quiet in the room. Lev Lvovitch and the other man were engrossed in their game. They seemed already to belong to another world. I felt I was entering a new one.
A low, rich, musical bass note, about G2 below middle C, began to sound in the room, pure and dry amid the muffling hangings. My host had begun to chant the Lord’s Prayer. The words came slowly and softly, the syllables flowing evenly and equidistant on the stream of the single note. The consonants just sufficed to articulate the words. From start to finish there was no stop, no hesitation, no halt for breath, no rise or fall in tone; it was one single sound, integral and self-contained, imparting to the prayer a meaning far deeper than the words themselves. The “amen”—pronounced, of course, “ah-meen”—trailed off into inaudibility in a way that merged the fading musical note with the ensuing silence. Chanted slowly in a single breath it seemed to last a very long time.”
http://www.gurdjieff-legacy.org/40articles/ozay.htm
(the sound of the aramaic prayer (syriac dialect I believe, though not the Jerusalem dialect) is here with original phonetics :
http://www.thenazareneway.com/lords_prayer.htm
Further, in Ouspensky’s books we can see references that go back to some of the Pythagorean roots of the prayer as quoted by Plato speaking of Socrates..see here
The origin of the prayer is unknown, but in Plato’s Second Alcibiades Socrates quotes a prayer, which very much resembles the Lord’s Prayer and is most probably the original form of the Lord’s Prayer. This prayer is thought to be of Pythagorean origin.
”Zeus the King, give us all that is good whether we ask for it or not, but command all that is evil to leave us even when we ask it of thee.”
The likeness is so obvious that it requires no comment. This prayer quoted by Socrates explains an incomprehensible point in the Lord’s Prayer, namely, the word “but” after the words ” lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil “. This but points to a continuation of the phrase which had existed before but which is missing from the Gospel prayer. This omitted continuation, ” even when we ask them (evil things) of thee “, explains ” but ” in the preceding sentence.
(A New Model Of The Universe…p203) see link here for download its named ‘ New Model Of the World’ ….
http://www.homeoflife.com/page1/maina.html
Whilst these are a lot of quotes to handle in one lump , there are some interesting snippets which join up Gurdjieffs creative Ray design, where he mentionsthe vibrational sound of the planets, which seem unintelligle at first then I came across something which we are all familar with and it is this.…
Boris Mouravieff was an associate of both Gurdjieff and Ouspensky. He knew Ouspensky fairly well, and grudgingly admits the influence of In Search of the Miraculous at the beginning of his extensive three volume work, Gnosis. He claims, somewhat vaguely, to have gone back to some mysterious Orthodox Christian source for his extension of the system ideas. In the following, which is one of my favourite sections of Gnosis volume 1, he shows that the do-re-mi notation actually derives from Latin terms that describe the Ray of Creation.
The esoteric teaching, formerly reserved for the initiated only, was known not only in the Orient but also in the Occident. We can see the evidence of this by analyzing the names of the notes of the musical scale, established, as we know, by Guido of Arezzo, an Italian Beneictine (c.995-1050). To do this, he utilized the hymn to St. John the Baptist, composed two years previously by Paul Diacre or Warnefrid, a historian of Lombardy (740-801). The latter was a secretary to the king of Lombardy, Dider, and after that lived at the court of Charlemagne, then in that of Benevent, to retire finally to the monastery of Monte Cassino, where he ended his days. The hymn to St John the Baptist goes like this:
UT queant lixis
REsonare fibris
MIra gestorum
FAmuli tuorum
SOLve polluti
LAbil reatum
Sanctae Johannes
We see that this hymn was composed by Paul Diacre in hermetic form. Such a procedure was always favoured in esoteric teaching. Comparative study of the diagram of the Great Octave, and the hymn of Paul Diacre, leaves no doubt that he knew this diagram quite veil. So did Guido of Arezzo who, two centuries after Paul, chose that hymn amongst all others, to introduce it into the musical gamut.
We can even see for ourselves why Paul Diacre utilized the syllable UT, instead of DO, to designate the first note. We should carefully note that he conceived this hymn as an ascending gamut, although the Great Octave naturally represents a descending gamut. From the meaning of its content, this hymn tends from the lower to the higher, from the coarse to the fine, in other words, from the human plane toward the divine plane. But he stops, without reaching the latter, at the note SI, consecrated to St John the Baptist, Let us say in passing that the Precursor enjoys a very particular veneration in the Tradition, and is placed above the Apostles. On certain Byzantine icons he is represented as winged, having two heads, one quite severed and bloody, and he bears it with his own hands on a platter.
If Paul Diacre had wanted to prolong his hymn by one more line, he would have had to consecrate it to Jesus, and consequently to start it from the syllable DO. But he did not do that. His eminently human gamut, having begun with man as he is, born of woman in all his imperfection, could obviously not start with DO, which really stands for Dominus. He chose the syllable UT, from the word uterus, the organ of gestation, precisely in order to underline that imperfect condition which is as common to all the devout as to all men, in order to direct them on the track of St John, of whom Jesus said: “Verily I say unto you, among them that are born of woman there hath not arisen a greater than John the Baptist..”
Thus UT—uterus—symbolises the door of birth according to the flesh and SI, the door of the second birth, according to the spirit, without which man cannot see the kingdom of God.
The ascending gamut of Paul Diacre thus comprises an octave of regeneration, going from birth on earth to birth in the heavens.
That is the explanation of this hymn, closely conforming to the sense of the mystical traditions of the past.
An exhaustive examination of the names of the notes that form the musical octave shows direct correspondence with the notes of the Great cosmic Octave, as can be shown from the following diagram:
(UT – UTerus, born of woman)
DO – God. The Absolute manifest. The central Sun. DOminus
SI – Starry sky. Ensemble of all Worlds. SIderus orbis
LA – Our Great World, the Milky Way. LActeus orbis
SOL – The Sun. SOL
FA – The Planetary World, to which our antiquity attributed direct influence on our destiny. FAtum
MI – Earth, our imperfect world, under the mixed rule of Good and Evil.
MIxtus orbis
RE – The Moon, ruler of human fate according to the Ancients.
REgina astris.
Or to put it in Gurdjieffs words via ‘IN SEARCH OF THE MIRACULOUS’ page 144
also download at http://www.homeoflife.com/page1/maina.html
” At the next meeting G. again spoke of the ray of creation, partly repeating and
partly supplementing and developing what he had already said.
“The ray of creation like every other process which is complete at a given moment
can be regarded as an octave. This would be a descending octave in which do passes into si, si into la and
so on.
“The Absolute or All (world 1) will be do;
all worlds (world 3).si; all suns (world 6). la; our sun
(world 12).sol; all planets (world 24).fa; the earth
(world 48).mi; the moon (world 96).re. The ray of
creation begins with the Absolute. The Absolute is All. It
is.do.
“The ray of creation ends in the moon. Beyond the
moon there is nothing. This also is the Absolute.do. ”
So there you have it… . I could continue and talk of how these connections fused with other experiences on the way of dear personal friend/ teachers of these ‘esoterica’ making my journey sweet and loving and loveable…and thankfully…
but for now I shall end with some music..
as I mentioned the harp before as an instrument of enchantment (see my SNnews post on Ireland..& the Welsh CRWTH ) then perhaps a documentary on that instrument and other Sacred Music which as you can see from my collections here on this site, I can also share with you to enjoy.
so please do…
and hum along with a ”do ray me fa so la ti do ”..
after all it is the Sound of Music !
… and as Danny La Rue, the famous cross dressing UK comedian once said to me as a little 11 year old boy in shorts , singing that scale ,on the Palladium stage… ‘You sang that very well ‘..
I never knew though that it would have led me all the way here though…
Enjoy… A fascinating lovely informative melodious documentary on the history of the harp..
bbc sacred music documentaries
Next week the similarity between Buddhist and Christian Thought….
There is an interesting similarity between certain very well known passages in the Gospels and certain passages in Buddhist books.
For instance, in The Buddhist Catechism there are the following words:
The fault of others is easily perceived but that of oneself is difficult to perceive; a man winnows his neighbour’s faults like chaff, but his own fault he hides, as a cheat hides the bad die from the gambler.1
…as found in In the New Model Of the Universe, Ouspensky(‘New Model Of The World’ in www. homeoflife.com )
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This atrocity is said to had happened recently in Plovdiv Region, Bulgaria. It is unclear who took this photo and what this poor dog’s fate is.
However, we see the registration number of the car and thus we could and should send protest emails to the regional prosecutor’s office.
Here, I include a short example text. Please feel free to use it or write your own and email it to the following address:
okrprok@plv.prb.bg
TEXT:
Attention: The Public Prosecutor, Plovdiv Region, ph: 00359 32 600 403
Dear Sir,
I am outraged by the barbaric treatment of a dog captured on a photo, which was published on Facebook on 7th Jun, 2013.
I understand that the animal was subjected to this heinous torture very recently and that it happened somewhere in the Plovdiv Region, Bulgaria.
I respectfully ask you to investigate the crime, find and punish the perpetrator who tied the dog and dragged it behind a car with registration
number РВ 5730 АР, as shown on the photo.
Documentary The Universe Quantum Physics Microscopic Universe
‘Naked Debate’ DR2’s objective is to create debate about important issues in society
http://www.dr.dk/tv/se/blachman/blachman-6-6#!/
‘Creating debate’
DR2 has had more complaints about the Blachman show than any other. It has also had a huge number of viewings, particularly on its “watch again” internet site.
Sofia Fromberg, the commissioning editor of the programme, insists she is not chasing ratings with breasts and bottoms.
Nina says she has had five marriage proposals since appearing on the show“Blachman certainly did not have the highest ratings of any of our shows. DR2’s objective is to create debate about important issues in society. And it has created a lot of debate!” she says.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v9tlI-dFyR4
Last week during a segment on breastfeeding, the host of the Dutch Saturday night show, Langs de Leeuw, suggested he would like to try breast milk.
An audience member offered him some milk she had expressed but host Paul de Leeuw told her he would rather take it from its source and suckled both her breasts on live TV.
Vietnam.. the dirty war.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phoenix_Program
Strategic effect
Between 1968 and 1972, Phoenix “neutralized” 81,740 people suspected of NLF membership, of whom 26,369 were killed.
The Phoenix Program (Vietnamese: Chiến dịch Phụng Hoàng, a word related to fenghuang, the Chinese phoenix) was a program designed, coordinated, and executed by the United States Central Intelligence Agency (CIA), United States special operations forces, special forces operatives from the Australian Army Training Team Vietnam (AATTV),[1] and the Republic of Vietnam‘s (South Vietnam) security apparatus during the Vietnam War.
Dan Dare and the Orange Men.
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My next blog on here is going to be about the secret society known as the SannyasNews Moderately Freemasons
I have been handed secret documents that show how this secret society formed with a ‘Lodge’ a ‘Hut’ and a ‘Blog’ have been secretly organising ‘opinion sharing’ meetups in forest clearings up and down the country.
Cleverly disguising their antics as ‘discussions’ , but having an altogether more nefarious agenda…. read on…
Fuelled by an almost messianic belief in their roles as what are called ‘editors’, and sponsored by copious amounts of ‘Baked Beans’ cooked in battered aluminium pots(providing endless supplies of hot air after supper) they then gather together to read coded messages from their spiritual manuals : ‘The Hotspur’ ‘ The Valiant ‘ and ‘The Dandy’ which they then proceed to claim contain profound messages for humanity for aeons to come.
Here are some of the Gnostic Millenial messages which they copiously study even under the bedsheets at night when the lights are out and they pretend to be asleep…these are known as ‘Comics’, although they are far from being funny..something which bears strange and unsurprising similarities here to their activities on SunShine News
example 1. A training manual for covert intrigue cleverly disguised in Comic form….
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_large/2/27783/1559155-hotspur_346.jpg
Example 2. A religious almaniac showing young men brainwashed into reverence of a holy reliquary…
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_large/2/27783/1293770-hotspur_368.jpg
Example 3. A picture of the total obedience expected as a member of the secret society , to the one known as the MASTER
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_large/2/27783/1309382-hotspur_670.jpg
It has come to my attention that some of these unnamed ‘editors’ have been trained in spotting scurrilous claims not worthy of discussion, from a distance of over 1800 yards with nothing but homemade telescopes made from toilet roll tubes and a magnifying glass and mirrors. They really can spot trouble a mile off.
Such is their influence in some of the top religious groups online that many fear to talk about them openly. One of their hall marks is to write into some online blogs disguised as devotees of some fringe quasi religious group searching for ‘enlightenment’, and , under the cover of darkness, and whilst removing their indoor plimsole shoes , they place comments teasing all and sundry so as to cause attacks of MASS HYPERBOLE.
This they then pretend to benignly moderate and ‘censor’ , whilst then placing more spurious opinions online for the following day…Apparently this is done for no other reason than to elicit the same sort of snorts and sniggers which they enjoy exchanging from their other favourite religious manual ‘ The Dandy’
In this example we see that they have a full and complete understanding of the limited freudian persona, in an especially written story , filled with religious seekers’ meaning ( ages 7 and up )
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-y962HgXPn8I/UZ0cRWko50I/AAAAAAAALpg/cN768On09D4/s1600/Beano+Book+004.JPG
Stay tuned for more revelations of the not so religious kind…
those recent Sannyasnews posts with all uncensored recent replies by me
No News at Osho News
It has not escaped the notice of Sannyasnews Editors that the heart attack suffered by “Rajneesh” has gone unreported at “no news at Osho news”! Whatever people think of “Rajneesh” he lived around Osho for many years, and certainly was doing his thing when many SN readers were in Poona and when Osho was alive. Surely the news around him has more importance than the middle brow travelogues that pass for copy at Osho News. Also at Osho News there is a total lack of any participatory approach and this has never been explained. (There is absolutely no room for comments on their articles, unless going through some kind of three line whip.)
We further note that from this week, the “great” forces of Osho World and Osho News have conjoined and are now bannering under the same flag…. so where is the vaulted independence of “Osho World” gone now. Plenty of guff about their cooperation, but of course nothing about who will be the “actual real” Editor of the thing. Such a duopoly has all the hallmarks of the narrowing of news options and opinions that have happened before within the world around Osho, and a healthy scepticism should greet it. We republish below part of a blog from Dhyan Raj who we knew in past times, and who at least thanks SN for its willingness to publish.
Dhanraj says by way of comment:
It is a wonder to me that the compassion of Buddhas is such that they try to bring transformation to humanity even though they are misunderstood and betrayed even by the people who are attracted to them.
I asked Rajneesh once – why are you bothering with all this ? – you can live your life perfectly well without all the hassle and trouble from an idiotic humanity – why try to help people and draw their stones on you? they dont understand anything and would rather you were dead than be helped out of their miserable game.
“That is a Buddhas job, Dhyanraj – to be crucified !”
Anyway I thank Sannyas News for having the courage to print Rajneesh’s heart attack story – my friends at Osho News – Punya and Maneesha and all, felt it was fitting to ignore the story and not print it in their “no osho news” – as Rajneesh is universally condemned by all branches of organised sannyasins – even though they may be enemies to each other like OIF and Osho World – they agree on this – that Rajneesh should be prevented from doing what he sees as his Master’s work.
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Oshopirates 
I think editors of sannyasnews are expecting too much from oshonews.com
First of all, compared to osho.com this site is thousand times more with the pulse of the time. May be this is the only sannyas site, where under the column Voyages, due coverage is given to the sannyasins who have died or left the body or even murdered!
Do the editors of sannyasnews think that oshonews should also create a column, “Seekers with the Doctors.”
I think after 50, even yoga masters need plumbing and renovation, denting and painting.
Shantam,
you dont answer two questions, why Osho News does not allow comments on its articles, and why it has now created this duopoly with Osho World, but very much not a partnership, but under their control.
Like many websites my own view is that it tries to cover too much because it does not have a clearly thought out Editorial line about quite what they are wanting to do. As a result they include a lot of copy that seems of mediocre quality and become like an airline magazine. I feel a sense of covert elitism around their whole enterprise.
Happy to hear your answers to these questions Shantam.
I check oshonews only for the Voyages. It touches my heart to see those unsung heroes dying at the average rate of two per month, who took the courage to be with Osho..
These unsung heroes made Osho, The Master. Otherwise he was an Acharya Rajneesh, religious Orator. Osho has so often called these people, MY PEOPLE.
So for this reason, I am thankful to the team of Oshonews.
reading about rest, sorry, I will prefer sannyasnews!
These Delhi based Oshoworld people are kind of smug in my opinion.
Me, me and me and my Osho, rest of the world is Scheisse.
In that sense, Pune and Delhi people are brothers separated in train crash!
World´s top news and views websites encourage participation of readers through the comments. Naturally, many times comments are below the belt when written by the dark shadows hiding in the veil of anonymity.
You are too the mark to realise, oshonews does not allow comments. It simply shows they are interested to preserve a frozen past rather than take the evolution further.
Somehow, what I am writing again and again, Osho´s sannyas has gone into the foot notes of history. Just look at the world around, In the age of non stop television, hot seat of Osho in Pune is promoting Osho Radio!
Their Osho is no more young and alive and restless but an old grand pa, whispering and sometime shouting, ” Is there someone to listen? Where all have gone?”
Dear P,
As I type here from my Eagle’s nest, way above the cloud line I think ponderously and waxingly as the mighty eagles spread their… (get on with it , Ed.,)
ah yes…
the biggest disaster to have hit sannyas was it’s formatted emotive institutionalization. What’s that I hear you reply, testily ?….That’s too dense a text already and we are only three sentences in…( Well either I carry on in my well- honed forms or I shall start typing in a mid transatlantic slightly german-accented form, with a lesser lexical range which I guarantee does not fall so pleasurably upon the ears, as can be testified in group rooms, everywhere.)
Well…
The most goddam awful piece of crap then, that sannyas (via Osho ) was responsible for was it’s secretive cloning programme , that was funded by millions of squillions of lakhs. Oh yes.
Many of us including even those people known to sannyas newsers, (shock horror,) have been guilty of replicating physical and even emotive characteristics of the smarmy and smarmulous, whilst mouthing the words ‘Buddha’ , who was likely also a clone, or ‘Osho’ or some such similar iconostasis.
This is institutionally all part of a secret covert plan by those who cannot tell stork margarine from real butter.
Now being vegan-friendly I have an eye for these things, and I can verify that in my experience of spiritual energy, then the many times when visiting these parlours of self servicing ,(similar to motorway cafes), these rest rooms for the religious , I have noticed that they glaringly have one thing in common with the Ton-Up motorway cafes littered along western civilization’s fringes.
They all offer intermediaries.
Similar looking , with some inflated added value, well sealed for a long shelf life, but utterly tasteless.
Now when physically famished and a bit bored from the endless nose to tail, foot down, charabanging that passes for bank holiday ‘seeking’ well into the uncharted countryside, one is often tempted to enter these Happy Advaita stereotypical milk parlours, bursting with the joys of previously unseen insights.
Thing is, they tend to replicate the customer , not only the produce
.Next time you are in one of them, have a look round. It often comes as a shock, that just as in today’s shopping cathedrals, (should one bear the misfortune of having to use them ) then the conversational skills of the hallowed customer are uncannily similar, perhaps even atrophying through lack of use and limited to ‘Oh look there’s 15p off sprouts this week…. Or gosh, yes , I see that now,vowwwww jaaa .
To whit I say this prayer.
Lord protect me from thy followers….
Which is a roundabout way of saying, now that Osho in Flight News has merged with OshoWaltDisneyWorld, that, are you at all surprised if they are foolfilling their cloned duty to reproduce and spawn. Why be alarmist about this.?
Or to put that very spiritual question to you….Who is In and who shall I say called ? or Who cares ?
Now then on a more topical note I know that we have our differences here on the Rajneesh Radio Times, but if you think you can paste three blogs in a row, copied from the Lithuanianske Forestvalke NeuroPattologie Instötuttà für Nuttarse then I might seriousyl think of complaining to the management
Their address is
Jerry SpringParmDharm Productions
The Trailer Trash Blogging Centre,( next door to the Ridiculously Expensive Meditation Centre)
The Rajneesh Twin Towers.
Pune.
And with that I bid thee , adieu…….(until lateerzz ,chaps )
Osho News? Never heard of it.
Just returned from visiting a vegan friend who lives in the woods on top of a hill…no, it’s not Johnny B Goode. Lovely chap who meditates for hours every day. I mentioned Mr Rajneesh to him, thinking that it might be of interest to him being an old sannyasin and all that. He’d never heard of him. Perhaps that is why Osho News failed to cover the story…no readership interest. We continued to chat with plenty of silences spent looking out over the splendid countryside. A lot of our silences were partly due to the fact that neither of us had any big news to report. Perhaps in the case of a meditative life no news is good news, which might be a way for Mr Rajneesh to get over the trauma of being ignored by Osho News. I’ve a feeling being ignored is something he might not be able to appreciate easily.
The remainder of the day was spent sitting by the sea. A cormorent popped up out of the water in front of me and that was about it. I took the sea bird’s sudden appearance as a summons to dive into the water. I did just that. It was a case of instant no-mind. I thought my forehead was going to crack from the cold.
lokesh – i see your mind came back and you were able to write again in the hope of convincing others that rajneesh is beneath you
your friend hadnt heard of rajneesh – clear proof that he does not exist in the sannyas movement today and is not news – ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
Em…er…weren’t you the guy who said he feels foolish about writing on SN. Got the bug? Or is it just a case of doing Osho’s work?
erm – no i didnt say that lokesh – another case of chronic misinformation from you –
yes i am doing osho’s work – something wrong in that ?
Depends what your definition of Osho’s work is. In your case I’d say being a misguided fool about sums it up. You are about the worst ambassador anyone could dream up. Surely amongst Mr Rajneesh’s followers there has to be someone better than you to act as selfappointed spokesman. Or are things really that bad in his camp?
yes lokesh – make up your own definition of osho’s work – making up things is your forte –
by the way i am a disciple of osho since 32 years – and you have been an ex disciple of osho for 32 years – what does osho’s work now have to do with you ?
this sannyas news is a forum for osho’s sannyasins – who mostly dont comment here due to an ex sannyasin like you continually pouring out poison for osho and his people who come and comment here
obscurantist smokescreens like this dont help anyone either do they? – it seems to be designed only to convince others that the author is a clever chappie – yes we know clevermind me “who cares”
there are serious issues to adress in the sannyas movement today – it is a living river which flows down the ages –
osho’s movement is in danger of becoming dry and dead – just a business – particularly as the businessmen and priests are doing all they can to dam the flow of the river in their active interference with those who bring the living truth of osho fresh and clean
SSD says, ‘there are serious issues to adress in the sannyas movement today’
No problem, address them to SN and we’ll sort them out quicker than you can say ‘Boom Shanker!’
That email warned me of further spam clones with similar names. I won’t be tempted by this rusy spoof. DRS is no match for SDR anyway. SDR was shrewd , witty and testicular whereas this DRS clone is withered and not capable of D let alone NA or even FA.
I might have to complain to the senior management here then…
Here goes..
Dear Dolly the Sheep,
It has come to my attention that blah blah blah , behh behh behh, blahh blah.
If you think I will be led around by someone who is DRS not RSD or DSR, then I’m afraid the wool over the eyes isn’t long enough. Bring back the original of the clone not the clone of the original.
Your sincerely,
Mr RajSheep.
( Shepherd and Master Flocker)
I just got another email with a photo of a rather large doorman in a Tshirt , the name of the company being SDR Bouncers and Nightclub management…
It simply read..
You fink u r beeang cleva den…
Signed your friend Danny Rajeone , and all da family.
martyn – yes it suits you to trivalise the issue being raised by parmartha – the promotion of clevermindme is the only thing you show is of importance to you – this is a disgrace to the sannyas movement of osho
Martyn, I wouldn’t worry too much about the ‘this is a disgrace to the sannyas movement of osho’ because on the level of disgraces perpetrated by the Osho movement you will not even rank in the top 100. Sorry to disappoint.
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Lokesh….donner und blitzen.. if only Parmartha had let in all my censored, censored posts ,then I might have been up there in the top 100….
I always knew big P was up to know good
as for the top 100….
next week on Top of the Clots we bring you more ways of turning disgrace into divine Grace with the help of Grace Kelly singing favourite tunes with good ol Frankie Sannyatramantra
from his famous album…
Songs of da Mob,
including
I’ve got him under your skin,’
You did it my Guru’s Way
All of him, why not take all of him ?
Something Clever
and many many more….
What about SRV?
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That would be a vehicle for all weather and terrain , which last appeared on Top Guru.. ( that is partly a recycled former joke of mine and may not be quoted , copied or alluded to without express permission or payment of a fine, in case anyone else is reading this )..
I have travelled with Swami Rajneesh for over 6 years now.
He has given over 90 meditation camps all over the world and has worked for free without charging anything from his side for the camps and events.
As a new sannyasin i was shocked to see the amount of misinformation and propaganda that was being spread about him wherever we travelled to.
It looks like sannyasins are really very jealous or bitter about themselves.
In India Swami Rajneesh was always welcomed in all the known ashrams. Swami Anand VijayJi of Amritdham Jabalpur which is the oldest Osho Ashram always welcomes him with so much love and has been inviting Rajneesh to come and even live there with them.
Swami Anand Teerth of Kutchwara gave us his whole ashram for Osho Birthday celebration and is always asking us to come again.
Swami Brahma Vedant Ji of Madhavpur gave Swami Rajneesh the most warm and beautiful welcome and gave his Ashram for the 19 January celebrations. It was so touching to see them meet and how gentle and graceful they behaved.
Swami Anand Swabhav Ji has always welcomed us to Mehasana Ashram where everyone received us with so much joy and celebration there.
Swami Gurudev Ji has so much love and connection with us and invites us again and again to visit them.
Swami Anand Arun ji is in contact with Swami Rajneesh and i see they are very close together in their love for one another. We have received so many invitations to travel to Tapovan and we really want to go there but Rajneesh schedules of travels were all made in advance and are waiting for this beautiful meeting to happen in Tapovan. The loving way Swami Arun and Rajneesh met in Ukraine and had dinner touched all our hearts and we can see that they both are simple and open hearted sannyasins.
Where ever we went to any city or meditation camp in India everyone was open and welcoming.
But we saw another side to this whole story and learnt the ugly side of sannyas politics and power games and threats and blackmail everywhere.
It looks like Ma Neelam and Swami Tathagat are really against Swami Rajneesh. As he wrote about them in his book Tears of the Mystic Rose.
They are very actively sending ugly messages to all India meditation centers to not allow Rajneesh to visit any Indian center with a threat that Osho World will reject their ashram and not allow Osho World people to go to those Indian centers. This propaganda was exposed to us in many ashrams and 6 meditation camps in India were cancelled last minute because they were warned by Neelam and Tathagat Nisarga. They seem to be controlling Osho World and all opinion of Indian sannyasin to become against Swami Rajneesh.
Even advertisements were cancelled by Osho World which was sent by Indian centers.
It is clear that Osho World is against Swami Rajneesh due to Neelam and Tathagat playing politics from Dharamsala.
Swami Keerti who is a close friend of Swami Rajneesh and i know stayed with him in Manali and Poona and they meet many times has also been warned by Neelam to not speak in favor of Rajneesh but to officially boycott him and speak against him in public.
This is the propaganda against Rajneesh in India.
We also travelled to 70 cities all over the world. Again we were always received with so much open heart everywhere we went by everyone. But suddenly we always found that these places were warned and threatened by OIF poona not to allow us to meet any sannyasins in their city. And they sent private messages and Sms by mobile phones to all sannyasins to boycott Sami Rajneesh events. If they did not listen then those who met Rajneesh would be banned by Poona Resort. Also any Osho center abroad that invited Swami Rajneesh would be blacklisted and all Osho Therapists who went to those same centers would be also banned by Poona Resort. We came to know of 20 or 30 such cases where therapists were asked to cancel their events in those centers as they allowed Rajneesh to meet them in his events.
This whole sannyas experience to me looks like one big blackmail business and threatening organization and enemies everywhere.
Therapists are against Swami Rajneesh as he has been offering everything for Free and has also announced that all Osho Therapies will be offered Free.
Rajneesh has received hundreds of life threats and warnings from so many that this has made Rajneesh more determined to offer Osho Free.
You cannot imagine how many things i have learnt about the sannyasins.
I am sure that even in Washington there is not so much politics and power games !
So the real truth is that Osho World of Neelam and Tathagat is against Rajneesh.
And OIF poona Resort Amrito is directly and totally against Swami Rajneesh.
Swami Amrito has made it his life mission to attack Rajneesh !
I know many more stories as i was close friend of Sookhi the korean girlfriend of Amrito, as i was also her korean friend.
I was threatened from very beginning in Poona Resort not to meet Rajneesh even before he started his meditation camps. When i met him i was immediately banned and all people who met Rajneesh were banned by the Resort.
If all the experiences i know were really written down then it will be clear that there is calculated attacks and propaganda to try to spoil Rajneesh reputation and to make sure people are warned against him.
Thanks Mr Kang.
Interesting that Rajneesh is popular in a number of Indian centres, and also with Swami Arun… As I understood it in 2009 Keerti was not so against Rajneesh, and had said some positive things said.
Basically all these people, whether they were/are inside, or pushed out of OIF were attracted to their roles because they have unconsidered and unconscious control agendas.
The very best of western psychotherapy does address such issues, but clearly they (like Amrito boasting sometimes of having only done three psychotherapy groups, ), “miss” such avenues of self exploration in a big way. But [psychotherapy is not the only ay to address such issues, many a hermit got further.
Actually a little advaita always helps in these circumstances also, just “Let it Be” . Whatever the power pushers may do, the main thing is to “know yourself” and that is the irreducible priority. If one gets a little help along the way, from this teacher or that, or this circumstance or that, then that should be one’s total focus.
Yes Parmartha i can understand what you mean. I was just explaining what i know from my years of travels with Swami Rajneesh. Yes Swami Keerti is a wonderful human being and we all love him and know that he is sincere sannyasin and that he also loves Rajneesh and both are close friends. My long comment was just to explain how politics and propaganda plays so much in what people say in public. Swami Rajneesh has always said to me that Keerti is warm hearted and sincere but is stuck between his official role for Osho World and Neelam Tathagat Nisarga politics.
And Yes i am a ” beautiful ” korean girl !!
yes,mini is beautiful.
so I am not surprised that korean or other asian girlfriends seem to be the latest must-have item on the shopping list of all modern gurus,religious leaders etc..
much better than a Rolls-Royce or a rolex,for sure!
also,coming from korea,you must know how easy it is to blame other people who look just like you for everything that is bad in your world.
its very convenient…..
they could be north koreans,or therapriests,political sannyasins,power-gamers,slanderers,people acting disgracefully,and disrespectfully to osho or our sense of self etc.
well,i would say if you want to have some good old sectarian strife or a jolly good jihad with other factions of sannyas,then at least have the realisation of the fact that battling with sworn enemies is a great way to feel good about yourself.
part of the excitement of being a rebel is enjoying fighting those that are wrong,so don’t forget to be grateful to them for the fact that they are giving you the opportunity to be right! and also righteously angry,indignant and judgmental and still feel good about yourself!
they are doing you a favour!
remember,love/war…its all just part of the cosmic drama
and a drama without a bad guy is really no story at all.
watch out tho`:
Freddie N said:
“battle not with monsters,lest you become a monster.and if you gaze into the abyss,the abyss gazes also into you”
that reminds me..i was looking at that vid of Rajneesh doing taichi that DR posted,when I had a massive realisation…
everything fell into place and I suddenly got it!
with a `tache,he`s an absolute dead-ringer for Freddie mercury!
look,he could use his talent for impressions to greater effect.
think how many people he could reach as a queen tribute act.
with DR as brian may on guitar….
“we will,we will rock you..”
they could do all the classics
“we are the champions..”
“its a kind of magic…”
“the o-show must go on..”
and of course
“sheer heart attack”………..
osho international foundation and osho world are doing rajneesh a favour by doing all they can to prevent him doing osho’s work?
you know frank it seems you couldnt care less about osho
just another clever guy who thinks its cool to trash osho and his people
people come to sannyas news looking for osho’s people – what do they find? you frank – do you think you are helping osho’s movement of sannyas ?
bloody `ell..
it`s the Clone Ranger…
fighting for tonto`s vision..
hi-ho and silver away..!
Frank surely you must realize that ‘tonto’ is Spanish for stupid.
Your second last comment was most enjoyable and I appreciate you rounding it off with Freddy quotes. Never too big on Queen myself but Mr Mercury had a great voice. Brian will have to diet a bit before he hits centre stage, but yes the resemblance is remarkable.
stupid eh?
well I never….
I could never stand queen either.
my girlfriend when I was teen had a crush on Freddie m, so I`ve hated them since then.
that`s how enlightened I am!
hahahahaha
(to coin a phrase)
‘You cannot imagine how many things i have learnt about the sannyasins.’ You underestimate the readership here on SN by saying that.
Trying to prove what a popular guy Mr Rajneesh is seems a bit weird to me. George W Bush was loved by millions and he was a monster. We’ve had Dhyanraj blowing Mr Rajneesh’s trumpet for a week here on SN and all he has succeeded in doing is making himself look like a sad clown.
“It looks like sannyasins are really very jealous or bitter about themselves.”
may be you already heard these osho’s words were spoken in the end of 80′s:
I have been asked again and again why i declare people enlightened only when they die. This is simply to keep a peace in a commune. If i will declare somebody to be enlightened you will kill him. You will not be able to tolerate that this man has become enlightened. You will find a thousands faults in him, you will condemn him, and you will be very jealous (c) osho
He declared a japanese zen woman enlightened in front of me and covered her with rose petals…..we all sang and celebrated like crazy that night…great fun..
sometime in 1989 i reckon..
It also depends what you or Osho or anyone means by the description “enlightened”.
For myself, whatever depths/heights Swami R may have reached (or allowed to reach him), I remain deeply unimpressed by his ‘clone’-like appearance and behaviour and by his appallingly insensitive statement at Miasto, Italy, concerning Ma Yoga Sudha, after her premature death.
I’m also sceptical regarding his attitude towards the wide range of therapeutic methods offered in the sannyas world and I wouldn’t trust him to know what’s best for most western ‘seekers’.
In short, I’ve seen and heard enough to know that I’m simply not in the slightest interested in seeking him out, in fact I feel repulsed by rather than attracted to him.
Now, you Rajneesh supporters, don’t try to tell me I’m ‘misguided, ‘wrong’, deluded’, ‘missing’, ‘projecting’, or any similar bullshione (that was a typo, but I rather like it, it has a sort of Italiano feel!), please.
Accept (what seems a self-evident fact of life) that not everything suits everybody, that every spiritual teacher has their own ‘field’, their own particular segment of humanity, large or small, that they can help (or attempt to help). As I’ve said before, ‘One Size’ most definitely doesn’t ‘Fit All’ in these matters. And Swami R and I are a bad fit.
clone clone clone clone clone – how long are you going to repeat the same old rubbish satyadeva?
whatever rajneesh looks like why does it hurt you?
and poor you so hurt by rajneesh’s comments about a ma who had died and couldnt be hurt by them – those comments were for the therapriests of miasto who were attacking rajneesh at the time as he had dared to hold a meditaton camp in an area near their miasto – sending sms to sannyasins that dont meet rajneesh or else !!!
you dont trust him and are repulsed by him – very good !! we dont want you anyway in our growing buddhafield – why do you imagine someone is after you ?
i comment here not to persuade satyadeva to join our group – but to expose the truth and counter the lies about rajneesh for those sannyasins who read these pages of sannyas news
Dhyan Raj:
clone clone clone clone clone – how long are you going to repeat the same old rubbish satyadeva?
whatever rajneesh looks like why does it hurt you?
SD:
If you haven’t understood by now, Dhyan Raj then I doubt you ever will. I’m sure that Swami R’s copycat mode is and will be a major issue for vast numbers who know Osho. That’s why he’s often called “Brian” here (do you get the joke?).
PS: Quite amusing how this aspect of the debate seems to ‘get up your nose’! Clone, clone, clone, clone, clone!
Atmo:
and poor you so hurt by rajneesh’s comments about a ma who had died and couldnt be hurt by them – those comments were for the therapriests of miasto who were attacking rajneesh at the time as he had dared to hold a meditaton camp in an area near their miasto
SD:
Ma Yoga Sudha was much-loved, hugely valued at Miasto, where she worked extremely successfully for many years, helping and inspiring people with her skills and her very being (as she had helped me, before and during the early days of sannyas, in London) She was therefore not just some “ma who had died”, some anonymous woman, she was someone greatly missed by the community.
So for Rajneesh to come and put her down, to insult her shortly after she’d prematurely died, to use her death in order to get at his enemies was utterly crass, profoundly wretched, unworthy of a self-proclaimed ‘God man’ – in my (and many others’) view. The more so as he clearly appeared to be enjoying himself up there on the stage.
You appear to disagree. If so, then you too are being as much of a wretchedly insensitive little shit as Swami R on that occasion.
Do you understand now?
SD says>
“that’s why people call him brian here(do you get the joke?)”
no,i don`t. that one has completely escaped me.
could you explain please?
the old irreversible braincell damage seems to be playing up this morning….must be all those years of wacky-baccy and all that slow wa*king meditation…
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Hey , Satyadevs,
Wasss a hapenin bro? Longa time no-a speaka.
Aya, rememba da good a times? But what’s all de probsi here… I see yo a gettin all da negativo energetico comin a too ya, ..wass a dissa ranjoosh. you speak abouta ? Last time I know you talk about womans with big choo choos…you like her a so mucha you sayyu ‘amma put ‘a’ after yoo name..like big ladyboy….. Ees funny no ?
Maybe yoo right… methink Parmarth do same he big ladyboy too. Maybe if I like Osh too much I also put in my name but then it sound Irish.. P.O’Martyn….maybe irish guru not so good a ?…
Ey, if you have a da probs, just call a me and wee fix all yoo like with dis rajnoosh, give him ol italian osho joke treatmenta… you rememba.. joke about italian man visitin america, telephone his wife to tell he visit river and spell it for her cos she hear bad on phone….
‘first em I in da asS, then in da asS again then.. I have asS one more time, then i like-a Pee, Pee come twice.. then finish with one in the I..
Hey Satyadevs, rememba if you gets the trubs with these Ranjeesh boys , you call a quick, me come fast to help yoo .. so no rubbishh with ranjeesh ….capissh, eh ?
Lots a lovea
Premtin Quarantino
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ohh maybe i make a de trubbs for everyone here.. .. yes make big mistayka…. Big P fair hand with everyone, maybe I offend … Offend ladyboy readers of SN… its big prob now in new sannyas, no offend or maybe you have more probs….and who knows maybe Thai ladyboys big readers of online SN in Camden library community resource centre……but hey me no a pc me use a laptop….so no a probs…
sorry no speaka engleesh…
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hey just big pps.. for anyone who no likea too much I in da joke,….
no worry .. yu is da joke…
okdokey… me go now …ladyboy appointment…
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“Know thyself”, told the wise man to his disciples.
“And then?”, enquired a disciple.
“Then help other people to know thyself”, answered the master.
Few are really doing it.
Shantam declares, ‘Few are really doing it.’ How on earth would he know that? Just because people don’t make a big noise about themselves it does not mean that they do not know themself. In fact, a wise man told me that normally enlightened people lead quiet lives and go about their business with the minimum of fuss. Something dear Shantam has obviously missed. If Arun and Rajneesh are enlightened I’m Fu-Man-Choo and I don’t even have a long drooping moustache.
oh lokesh – you are fu man chu ? and you cut your moustache?
i see according to you osho had the wrong idea – rather than speak and work to transform people he should have never come out of hs room and made a fuss – as you say that is proof osho was not an enlightened man
if he had led a quiet life as enlightened people should do you say then this forum would have never existed and we would not have had to put up with your uninformed punditry –
ha ha ha ha – you couldnt even be bothered to see what rajneesh had to say in his video – who needs to be informed – its easier to be misinformed when you wish to condemn others isnt it ?
‘its easier to be misinformed when you wish to condemn others isnt it ?’ Yes it is and it encapsulates your limited mind set perfectly.
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Satyam Dhyanraj and Mini Kang in one photo.
It is always good to know, how people look before one drafts the answer.
Shantam:
The gentleman in the photo says it is Sw Atmo, not Dhyanraj?
I see I made a mistake in thinking that Mini Kang was a man… apologies.
ha ha ha – its me parmartha – grown older of course – it was part of atmos photo album
Parmartha I always thought that you were a decent spiritual umpire, but … you’ll let anyone with a beard play as long as they bear an uncanny resemblance to your indomitable guru seen here..
(new balls please )
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P.S–That’s obviously meant to read W.G DisGrace.
( I must be gettin old , as I just missed that one ..)
Rest in non judgement, Prem Martyn. Even those who did you wrong. Of the latter I realise there were a number in the past, but you’re over that now I would think, and is it not time to journey on without the burden of those from the past who hurt you ?
Is that a cricketer’s googlie ?
I just pass the time here, and as for journeying on.. i can’t get much further than the Alps and still get an internet signal to bother everyone with. Comedy is not about singing praises, its about having a target.
Less of the therapeee and interpreted intermediated religious purpose and more of the raw life as she is. I’m having more fun these days than ever when I thought I had to wear my heart on my sleeve a la sannyas.
And that way I hope you may rest abroad.
I certainly do.
i see from your comment that you are just passing time here martyn – and your aim is simply to be comic and clever and bother others
this is a forum for sannyasins and parmartha has raised a serious topic for discussion – a topic you dont discuss – no wonder there are so few commentators here – seeing the drivel that passes for sannyasin discussion most just run off – that why bother talking to these people
by commenting here you are a representative of osho’s sannyasins – now people think that osho sannyasins are only clevermemind and have no sincere interest in the search for truth at all
This comment is perfect in the sense that it shows so well how up himself poor Dhyanraj is. This from a man who talks as if he knows something about human growth potential. Shrunken heads more like.
‘Parmartha has raised a serious topic for discussion’ I think what is serious is his attitude and that is about the extent of it. I don’t see him as someone who is open to any form of coherant discussion. All he is doing around here is using this forum to broadcast a corny mind-set and bathe in self justification. Come the day he wakes up to how stuck in his head he is thunder will roll in the heavens and Gabrial will blow his horn. It won’t come a day too soon.
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Recently taken photo of a white robe gathering, anyone recognise that bloke with the beard ?
Forget about enlightenment kind of stuff Lokesh. First try to grasp the distinction between satires and statements!
“Uncle, do you have Truth ointment. I have read at facebook, it is very effective?”
Pharmacist brings one tube from his cool room.
The young customer; before he asks the price enquires, ” Does this have some side effects too?”
Shantam, if there is one thing you teach perfectly by example it is that you show how a patronizing twat looks.
ha ha ha – good one lokesh – how witty you are when you are exposed as ignorant of what you presume to judge
Golly!
Dhyanraj and his Rajneesh; where is the press, where are the Tv and print journalists?
Why there are no football stadiums full with people to get the free for all; Osho meditation and “you touch me here and I touch you there” kind of expansive therapies not even at the price of one pound fish!
few things really repulse, even if they are good!
I am currently receiving freephone advice from the NHS new 111 service for emergency traumas.
So I phoned them up and I said ..Look it’s like this,
I once knew someone who may have hurt my feelings, and I’d like a second opinion about journeying on ..and the funny thing was, that a male voice replied to me, and I thought I could distinctly hear the muffled sound of a crowd in the background shouting ‘owzat’..which made me ask again if this was indeed the 111 new emergency helpline..there was this pause, and then the voice replied ..’Of course yes’, and, ‘had I thought of getting Over things’ . Well of course I had , but I told him I was feeling quite Stumped at the moment because all the memories seemed to be hitting me Square on….
At that point there was some clapping , and a distinct sound of the pouring of tea ….
‘Hello’ I said, look, I don’t want to sound desperate, I said , but if I could get Over it , I would have but these Wicked feelings just won’t go away. The helpful male voice replied that he completely understood that this was indeed an emergency but that he wasn’t placing any bets on the result of me scoring well enough for the advice I needed. But then he asked if I could Stand it any longer ? Or was that a long shot in the current run of things ?
It was then that I realised how foolish I had been, and decided to give my old feelings the Slip. There was no point playing silly or muddling on. It was time to find the room for changing, in myself, and open up a whole new field of opportunities.
‘Why, thank you so much , for your kind and sageful advice I said, to which he replied that it was nothing, not to mention it, that he was happy to be providing a public service, without the usual Flannel or flimsy advice for someone like me, who just happened to have been on the losing side for far too long, in the last century.
I guess with my name though these things can hurt Deeply, however well Covered.
All the best,
Jock S. Trapp (Swami)
Well, if things get a bit boring around here all that’s needed is to stir the Mr Rajneesh pot and things liven up. I honestly don’t know that much about him but his followers certainly seem to be a mixed bag, ranging from what sounds like sincere seekers to raving fantatics like Dhyanraj.
Sannyas began to be hijacked by loonies on the ranch and it seems, to a certain extent, to be continuing in that vein in some sectors of the global sannyasin community.
Today I see sannyas for what it was…a device. I suspect that device is fasr becoming obsolete as the old boy is not around to keep a cosmic eye on things like he once did. Even while alive I think there was a point where Osho tired of his creation and lost interest for a while and hence things went pretty haywire for a time. His interest returned and he picked up the pieces in Poona Two. Now he is gone the hijackers have returned in force, marching under banners like ‘doing Osho’s work’ ‘maintaining his heritage’ etc. What a circus!
If there is a problem within the sannyas movement today it is this. The people who got the essence of what Osho was about are religious. The ones who missed want to build a religion based around an image of Osho.(impossible to do when he was alive but now the cats away the mice are running riot) Those two camps will never see eye to eye. When I see Mr Rajneesh getting all excited about how many ashrams he wants to build I immediately know that he is doing his own work and not Osho’s. Who needs another ashram when you already live in the greatest temple ever created? Rajneesh looks to me like an ambitious man with ambitious plans. I seem to recall Osho telling me that ambition was the way of the ego. So how does that tie in with Rajneesh doing Osho’s work?
ah lokesh – did you finally watch the video then and inform yourself?
i dont see any religion being created around rajneesh – yes – religiousness not religion –
rajneesh wants to create ashrams to share osho – why do you think this is ego ? – just because you dont want to share osho it doesnt mean that no one else should –
your own love affair with osho ended 32 years ago – the device as you call it of sannyas certainly will be obsolete and die if left in your hands – but rajneesh is not you is he? – he has a connection with osho today not a fading memory of 32 years ago and will do his masters work
and lokesh you say “Who needs another ashram when you already live in the greatest temple ever created?”
rajneesh needs no ashram – but sannyasins do need ashrams – where the meditative energy of all there can create the buddhafield of energy which carries all present up and is invaluable for transformation
you experienced the buddha field energy when you were young in osho’s ashram – we wish to create again such spaces which are so helpful for the people who participate to grow
Dhyanraj says, ‘we wish to create again such spaces which are so helpful for the people who participate to grow.’
Be my guest. Thing is, Dhyanraj, you are not delivering a very good image of someone who is growing. You come across as very narrow-minded, serious and generally uptight and outtasight. You are not even talking the talk let alone walking the walk, be it a silly walk or otherwise. Your idea of growth is superficial, scratch the surface and you explode and fire of another volley of banal self-justification. As if to say you have it all worked out when you have hardly begun the process. No need for anyone round here to give you directions, because you are obviously lost, sooner or later life will get around to you and show you the way.
I’m always amazed how the ego gives the feeling of importance and disappropriate size in relation to the universe. We do better to see that we are in reality very small, and so very vulnerable in the face of it all. There is a beauty to that also and with it comes humility, a quality that I see totally lacking in everything you write. Ah well, we all know what happened to Humpty Dumpty.
Rajneesh vision of of many small Osho communes around the world that offer Osho Free. If that is ambition then you are blind, as we see it as his love and dedication to sharing Osho and not Selling Osho.
Poona Resort has just become one business making machine with no other aim but to suck blood and live like parasites.
Swami Rajneesh feels that offering Osho Free is the new way now and these free communes will receive donations that they deserve.
He says first share with open heart and then see the miracle of love.
This act of sharing without any demand creates the right climate for the inner experience to flower. We also see his view as what is needed now in this new age, as all therapists and group leaders are only using Osho message for their own business and charging thousands from newcomers who are turned off by this business business business vibe.
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http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/at-last-soren-kierkegaard–the-musical-8604097.html
One day guys, one day, we will put ours down for production .. and tour the musical….our very own tribute….to everything…we ever said or did,..ever.
Sannyas News…. The Musical….
I found some interesting messages of Swami Rajneesh from Save Osho Samadhi Facebook page about his views on free Osho Therapies and Groups as being the new way : First read then comment with some reason that makes sense instead of just the same boring repetitive attacks against him :
instead of saying people will not value meditations offered free – i would look at stating that we should first value the seeker !!! and trust that his heart will feel love and gratitude and offer whatever is his means – love or donation or even physical participation and spreading this message – everyone is priceless – and just mere money does not prove that they value the meditation !!! that is sheer humbug !!!
OSHO therapists who teach and speak about trust – first should also learn to trust the love and gratitude of seekers – let OSHO therapists earn out of their donations offered – that would prove that they are truly offering a priceless treasure !!!
speaking about abundance and then asking for 4000 US$ from seekers for mystic rose experience !!! pure humbug and sheer hypocrites !!! abundance flowers from the heart of one who has experienced the blessing of love and of our beloved master OSHO
offer OSHO therapies out of your heart and share from the inner source of compassion and see the miracle !! money cannot be the real reason for OSHO offerings – that is sheer exploitation and greed and ugly domination – reducing the seeker into a commodity for exploitation
the deepest experiments and core meditations are kundalini dynamic nadabhrama and all such meditations which are free – so people do not value them ?? mystic rose was free in commune – now why 4000 US$ ?? those comments were in the 80′s and the world has moved far ahead into a new age – and offering free will spread the message and thousands donate out of their experience and gratitude –
mystic rose is a delicate and deep experiment – how many young 18 – 20 – 25 have 4000 US$ for this experience ?? that too plus air tickets travel food and stay in poona costs a total of at least 6000 US$ for 21 days !!! is that the way to steal money from young OSHO lovers ?? and then what do they do with that money ?? use for personal swiss bank accounts ??
my dream is to make OSHO available for all FREE and spread the fire of his love FREE for all those who are thirsty !! the time has come – the new millennium of the new age for the new man and new woman – to offer our beloved masters vision – spread the fire before it is too late !!
i am just a dissolved devotee – this sacred temple is the dream of our beloved master OSHO for millions of sannyasins – his vast vision and pure compassion offers a humanity a new horizon – just to absorb and imbibe OSHO is enough !! all sannyasins need is freedom of expression of their love and gratitude without fear or banning – to create festivals of dance creativity and celebration of our master OSHO – to spread OSHO message freely without any trademarks or copyrights – and all will come together naturally gracefully – simply open the temple – the fire is there – let it burn and ignite every human heart that is seeking OSHO
Lokesh, Well said. Jesus is gone and now his apostles are on the job to create a religion around him. But the contrast is Osho is not crucified so there is neither a wave of sympathy nor there are feudal lords who can convert their whole kingdoms into Osho-ism. Over and above these apostles fight among themselves. No wonder, In the last two decades, they couldn’t even make a dent of converting or even influencing people to Osho. Its still the old boy (as you say) who influences people either thru his audio video talks available on the free/paid electronic media or his books.
At least, if these so called enlightened copy cats like Rajaneesh can create an ashram or two, new people can go and try and taste some active meditation techniques created by osho (or created by few genuine people after his death). I surely wish him success in that effort for sure.
Osho is not just for the enlightenment and the seekers , he seems to have equally loved non-seekers as well. He is all for making this very earth a heaven. I would be surprised to know if all the apostles put together ever did anything towards social cause.
Gone, gone are those times of living with living master.. he knows that priests will come and take over when he is gone. He has that’s why opened a new door to the new man to be his own master with no middle man in between.
Yes, Newman, I pretty much agree with what you say. My wife was just saying last night that if there was a new bright star on the satsang scene she would probaly go visit him/her for a bit of refreshment. Currently there are not so many of those types of illuminated people around, although there are quite a few, what I would describe as, enlightened folks around…in the hood even. I’m sure that Rajneesh does good work in regards introducing people to Osho’s meditations etc. For me he simply appears as unattractive.
As for turning this world into heaven, I see that as a very subjective thing. Heaven is already here if you have the eyes to see it. People’s ideas about what represents heaven are as diverse as the wild flowers in a field on Ibiza in springtime.
I seem to recall Osho telling me that ambition was the way of the ego…..
Lokesh Ji
And from that day onwards Ambition is eradicated like Malaria!
Now when one looks in hindsight, Was Osho not an ambitious type?
At least we are trying to be ruthlessly honest on this site, do Lokesh consider himself non ambitious?
Is the tree with million branches is more ambitious than the small grass blade?
One of the reason majority of the humanity avoids spiritual kind of people is their double standard way of life and contempt for the basic human traits.
I think it is a fundamental right of those who want to play guru; only question should be, are they willing to pass through the stringent quality controls or they want to sell their Buddhahood like the boy in the movie slum dog Millionaire, filling tap water in the bottle of Bisleri!
Just heard the announcement on the Indian Railway Platform, ” Please crush the water bottles after use to avoid the misuse.”
Shantam asks, ‘do Lokesh consider himself non ambitious?’ I would not go so far as to say I am non-ambitious, but what ambitions I have are fairly fundamental…to be financially independent, a reasonably good artist, a great DJ, a good vibes person etc. I certainly would not consider building ten ashrams like Brian…too lazy I guess.
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Diary….Somewhere in Switzerland…
Monday… Erm.. yawn stretch…dreamt about a large cricket bat, on a swivel chair, which had an evergrowing beard on it….someone kept laughing out loud and then shouting ‘ow is zat’ in a german accent and handing me a box of tissues….with property of ‘Camden Council Survivors of Abusive Gardening Centre’ … the dreams so real and then wake up..
aaaaaaaarghhhhhhhh
… Tum Tee Tum Tee Tum… Yawn, Wakey wakey rise and shine… Greet the day…
Mountains Mountains Mountains…. oh well here goes…Hummm, Osho… Hummmm…..well yep they’re mountains still, but not just mountains now but but but peaks of pristine thingamijiggy doo dahh… still too early to think straight…
coffeee, yawnnnn …….. I know will try that new glosallia technique… jiber jabber joo.. ah yes…testing testing 1, 2, 3
mmmmmm…. shha sha shaaaaa …ppppp uuuuuu
here goes… shudup yu face …. shudaappa lalala dubiwuwah wu shudappuface…. mmm thats even better ..wow , must have been a gnostic christian in a past life.. definitely….
tum tee tum tee tum.. girlfriend snoring in bed.. I know I will do some glossalia in her earhole….oops thats not her earhole , never mind… lalalal shudauapp uface……
shudapmngfhrmmff….
erm interesting tantric glossalia…must be stage two of the glossalia not in the book…..
but hey enough of this … first things first…
Coffee, Fresh Air, Mountain Walk, Hoover, Dishes , forget last two….and note to self….must suggest Sannyas-serious only blogger forum, to big P… maybe I could be the editor.
that may not be cricket though eh ??
ahh shudapukaka a shadupukaka…………